Tour de France 2005

The Shaman

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Stage 3, La Châtaigneraie - Tours

I want to ride my bicycle, I want to ride my bike...
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A day at the races...
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Some really old school fans...
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Here comes the bunch sprint, with Robbie McEwen acting the arse as usual...
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Ride 413km faster than everyone else, win a plush toy...
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Stage 4, Tours - Blois TTT (team time trial)

The Pale Blue Train warming up on the rollers...
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Out of the gate...
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Teamwork...
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60 km/hr on tires less than 1cm wide...
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Hard landing...
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So would the cool thing to do be to give Lance the win and let him retire at the top of him game ... or attempt to beat the pants off him so he goes off having been smacked by the doorknob of retirement?
 

Olgar Shiverstone said:
So would the cool thing to do be to give Lance the win and let him retire at the top of him game ... or attempt to beat the pants off him so he goes off having been smacked by the doorknob of retirement?
I think it's going to be this: everyone is going to attempt to beat the pants off him and he's going to retire at the top of his game.

Lance has showed good legs so far, he's got the strongest team in the field, and he wants it - and he's got more than a minute into his most dangerous competitors on GC, Alex Vinokourov and Ivan Basso.

Last year the Tour organizers tried to punish him with mountain after mountain after mountain, and he won. This year they flattened the course quite a bit - fewer mountain-top finishes, no Mont Ventoux, no l'Alpe d'Huez - which plays to his strength and Discovery's strength in the individual and team time-trials.

It's going to take an extraordinary effort and/or some really bad luck (like poor Dave Zabriskie today) for LA to lose this Tour.
 

The Shaman said:
I think it's going to be this: everyone is going to attempt to beat the pants off him and he's going to retire at the top of his game.

Lance has showed good legs so far, he's got the strongest team in the field, and he wants it - and he's got more than a minute into his most dangerous competitors on GC, Alex Vinokourov and Ivan Basso.

Last year the Tour organizers tried to punish him with mountain after mountain after mountain, and he won. This year they flattened the course quite a bit - fewer mountain-top finishes, no Mont Ventoux, no l'Alpe d'Huez - which plays to his strength and Discovery's strength in the individual and team time-trials.

It's going to take an extraordinary effort and/or some really bad luck (like poor Dave Zabriskie today) for LA to lose this Tour.

What he said. LA's performance in the inditial individual time trial opened a huge lead on his toughest competition. I felt pretty bad for Jan Ulrich watching Lance blow past him. This year's course doesn't favor LA's strength as much as last year's, but I don't think it will make any difference. Barring a bad fall (or crazed "Monica Selesuesque" fan incident), I think LA will win and ride off into the history books.

There was an interesting article on SI.com that talked about the pressure his competition is under to "make something happen", which causes them to push too hard and make mistakes.

~ OO
 

The Shaman said:
Last year the Tour organizers tried to punish him with mountain after mountain after mountain, and he won. This year they flattened the course quite a bit - fewer mountain-top finishes, no Mont Ventoux, no l'Alpe d'Huez - which plays to his strength and Discovery's strength in the individual and team time-trials.

I think Lance is pretty good with mountain climbs actually. He may not be a pure climber, but I think he's the best in the current TDF. I generally read that the 'flatter' tour is actually to Lance's disadvantage. Also, there is not mountian time trial this year.
 
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johnsemlak said:
I think Lance is pretty good with mountain climbs actually. He may not be a pure climber, but I think he's the best in the current TDF. I generally read that the 'flatter' tour is actually to Lance's disadvantage.
I agree that the flatter course opens up the field a bit.

There are a lot of strong climbers on the Tour - Paco Mancebo, Roberto Heras, Iban Mayo, Floyd Landis, Vino, Basso. What the '05 course does is change the successful strategy used to time when and where USPS (now Discovery) would look for time bonuses. In the past the steep mountain finishes all came with a map notation that says "LANCE ATTACKS HERE!" This year's edition doesn't offer the same kinds of opportunities as the past Tours. Instead of the Greatest American Sports Moment that Most Americans Never Saw, Lance's attack on l'Alpe d'Huez in Stage 10 of the 2001 Tour where he put some two minutes into Jan Ullrich and set himself up to take the jersey in the Pyrenees a few days later, we're more likely to see finishes like last year's stage 17, when Lance, Floyd Landis, Jann Ullrich, and Andreas Kloden were in a four-way sprint at the end of a downhill finish. The time bonuses for finishing first may make the difference in who's on top of the GC in the end - it makes for more exciting racing in some ways, but it's also riskier for the GC leader.

Everyone's going to have to work very hard to cover the breakaways on the mountain stages. I think this is why the real challenge is going to come from Ivan Basso, IF he has his climbing legs after a tough Giro d'Italia. Team CSC is the only team in the race this year that can realistically match Discovery, as they showed in the TTT yesterday. Jens Voight and Erik Dekker are both so suicidally strong that they can make totally kamikaze attacks in the mountains that splinter the peloton and force Discovery out of its plan, and Bobby Julich is finding a whole 'nother set of legs in the latter half of his career that make him a dangerous domestique on the order of George Hincapie or Paolo Savodelli on Discovery.

I think Lance can win, but I don't think it's going to happen without a real dogfight, and I expect to see CSC contest every move by Discovery. This could be a very exciting Tour to watch.
 


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