D&D 5E Toxicity in the Fandom

[FrozenNorth]

First positive portrayal of a gay character on US TV was 1990 in Married With Children of all things. AFAIK.

Barney Miller had a couple of positively portrayed gay characters earlier, including a gay policeman.

 

[nevin]

Are we talking about vegans or the 1% because "drives a Tesla" tends to be the latter.

< Braces for a lot of "IN THEORY you could own a Model 3 on X salary!" - yeah, in theory, that's just not, by and large, the people who actually own them, given the waiting lists (meaning no-one who doesn't already have access to a car can have one), the requirement for a garage for them to survive the winter outside parts of the West/West Coast, and the need for a "winter car" on top of that, meaning a two-car garage! And I'm majorly pro electric car, they just really need to fully sort their ability to survive/operate in US winters >

And reduce battery degradation in hot climates, deal with the water pollution issue as the things that make battery do bad things to living creatures. Then convince people that spending 5 to 10k every 5 to 7 years depending on where you live to keep the car going is ok. Also we have to upgrade the electric infrastructure in nearly all neighborhoods in most countries to add the extra capacity for quick charging at home. They are great for air quality but they just arent' there yet. it will be many trillions of dollars before we even get close to them being an ok economic choice for most people.

 

[James Gasik]

Yes.

Ripley

 

[Zardnaar]

And reduce battery degradation in hot climates, deal with the water pollution issue as the things that make battery do bad things to living creatures. Then convince people that spending 5 to 10k every 5 to 7 years depending on where you live to keep the car going is ok. Also we have to upgrade the electric infrastructure in nearly all neighborhoods in most countries to add the extra capacity for quick charging at home. They are great for air quality but they just arent' there yet. it will be many trillions of dollars before we even get close to them being an ok economic choice for most people.

We just use a small engined Toyota getting old now. Runs on the smell of an oily rag. No battery to dispose of, not much in the way of rare earth elements requires -5000 pretentious points.
Most boring car ever but it just keeps going.

And for small trips theres "walking".

 

[Ruin Explorer]

Generally wait for them to land on streaming. Think I liked Aquaman and Joker better ymmv.

I found The Joker to be literally the very most derivative and least original movie I have ever seen in my entire life, including actual parodies of other movies! I did not know that level of "derivative and no new ideas" could even exist. It could have been spewed out of an AI like Dall-E, just by someone referencing Martin Scorsese movies and typing "The Joker set in 1970s New York". People said it was "relevant", but like, only the sense that we're as stuffed right now as we were in the 1970s! It's accidental (or at best, intentional in the sense that Scorsese's stuff is still relevant). Two thumbs down frankly. Kind of made me wonder if Gen Z, who by and large refuse to watch 1970s movies in the same way Millennials rarely watch 1950s movies or before, will just lap up a ton of ultra-derivative reuses of 1970s styles/plots.

Aquaman was dumb as hell, too long, but tons of fun. Better than most MCU affairs. Also remarkably good trident-fight! Two thumbs up.

 

[Zardnaar]

I found The Joker to be literally the very most derivative and least original movie I have ever seen in my entire life, including actual parodies of other movies! I did not know that level of "derivative and no new ideas" could even exist. It could have been spewed out of an AI like Dall-E, just by someone referencing Martin Scorsese movies and typing "The Joker set in 1970s New York". People said it was "relevant", but like, only the sense that we're as stuffed right now as we were in the 1970s! It's accidental (or at best, intentional in the sense that Scorsese's stuff is still relevant). Two thumbs down frankly. Kind of made me wonder if Gen Z, who by and large refuse to watch 1970s movies in the same way Millennials rarely watch 1950s movies or before, will just lap up a ton of ultra-derivative reuses of 1970s styles/plots.

Aquaman was dumb as hell, too long, but tons of fun. Better than most MCU affairs. Also remarkably good trident-fight! Two thumbs up.

Everyone's different on tastes.

On the plus side we scientifically established if you're a vegan that vapes, drives a Tesla and owns an iphone and are pretentious and preachy it's not toxic to rip on them they deserve it.

Well done ENworld I'll defer to our collective wisdom.

 

[Raunalyn]

Oh, absolutely. There is nothing wrong with "just walk away" and it's a lesson I've had to learn far more often than I should have. Walking away from groups where I just didn't fit with the group is absolutely one of the hardest things I've had to learn in gaming. Particularly if the tone of the group shifts over time. It's really hard to turn to someone you've spent a considerable amount of time with and just say, "Sorry, but, I'm not enjoying pretending to be an elf with you anymore."

It is once aspect of gaming that I think should be talked about more often - how to recognize when it's time to walk, and how to do it gracefully.

Ah...here, we agree on something. Yes, it is a good lesson to walk away gracefully. But a clear example of what not to do is make libelous accusations against someone simply because you didn't take their argument at face value and ascribed all sorts of motives and assumptions to what they were saying. Wouldn't you agree?

 

[Snarf Zagyg]

I've seen toxicity on a number of forums. The one I encounter most often is the "holier than thou" attitude. It exists in forums where there are subgroups with (usually small) competing nuances to their "ideologies". Instead of combining their efforts to promote the topic in question, they spend their time arguing over minutia.

My personal example would be animal rights vegans vs. health vegans.

 

[beancounter]

If I had a nickel every time I heard " but you eat chicken, right?" "No?, Ok so you must eat fish then?" I'd be rich.

 

[Vaalingrade]

I found The Joker to be literally the very most derivative and least original movie I have ever seen in my entire life, including actual parodies of other movies! I did not know that level of "derivative and no new ideas" could even exist. It could have been spewed out of an AI like Dall-E, just by someone referencing Martin Scorsese movies and typing "The Joker set in 1970s New York". People said it was "relevant", but like, only the sense that we're as stuffed right now as we were in the 1970s! It's accidental (or at best, intentional in the sense that Scorsese's stuff is still relevant). Two thumbs down frankly. Kind of made me wonder if Gen Z, who by and large refuse to watch 1970s movies in the same way Millennials rarely watch 1950s movies or before, will just lap up a ton of ultra-derivative reuses of 1970s styles/plots.

I mean, it is straight up a remake of a different movie, IIRC.

Aquaman was dumb as hell, too long, but tons of fun. Better than most MCU affairs. Also remarkably good trident-fight! Two thumbs up.

Not to mention Mimoa at one point more or less turns to the camera and apologizes for everything else DC had been doing up to that point and waxes serious about how superheroes should be.

And eats a rose.