Tracy Hickman's view of the Dragon #300 sealed section

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Khan, if you mean Pat Pulling's organization, that was BADD (Bothered About Dungeons and Dragons), probably named to prevent confusion (but still identify with) MADD (Mothers Against Drunk Driving, a far worthier cause).

Now, on to Tracy Hickman's editorial:

I, too, am disgusted by Mr. Hickman's response. By equating Dragon 300 with the twin towers, he is belittling every single person who lost or gave their life in that tragedy by equating their lives to his game. He is comparing the sadness of parents and children who lost family members to his own disappointment with hobby.

Furthermore, he's using the events of 9/11 to try to score some kind of propaganda victory, making it seem like you're a supporter of Al Quaeda just because you don't agree with his choice of morality. That's the same kind of $#!+ that Falwell pulled when he blamed gays and liberals for the bombings. I was disgusted then when someone used it to push their own particular agenda/morality, and I'm disgusted now.

Mr. Hickman has every right to be upset about the "vile" content. He has every right to express that disgust. But I am sorely disappointed in the manner in which he chose to do so.

Khan is right, Tracy. You should be ashamed. How dare you take a national tragedy and use it as a soapbox for your own petty crusade? How dare you take the memory of the people who died and wave it as a flag for your own sense of morality? How dare you trivialize the loss by comparing it to a game?

I sincerely hope that your letter was written in haste, to be repented at leisure, and that you do not truly believe the situations to be at all comparable. Tempers flare hot around both subjects, and it is easy to go overboard. Please, reconsider your words. You are a writer by trade - surely you can present your views in a way that is not so full of hyperbole, a way that is not so demeaning to those who have suffered or died.

Jeff Johnston
 

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Terrorism????

While I concede the Mr. Hickman is entitled to his opinions, and I can even see where he's coming from, equating the Book of Vile Darkness to terrorism is just crossing the line. In what way could this even *reomotely* be construed as a terrorist attack on him? Was his mailbox destroyed by it? Did Monte Cook run into his house with TNT straped to his back?

No, of course not. Calling it "terrorism" is simply slander against Mr. Cook and others who have done "mature" work. Even if you dont' agree with that work (and that stance is understandable), calling it terrorism simply because you didn't agree with it is irresponsible, and worse, it's a insult.

It's an insult to people that die in terrorist attacks for Mr. Hickman to equate him seeing magazine articles he doesn't like to others who are killed or disfigured, or lose loved ones to real terrorist attacks, and using the world "terrorism" over such a small thing, which is not terrorism by *any* definition of the word, trivialises the term.

Mr. Hickman should be ashamed.
 
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Morrus said:
This was part of Tracy Hickman's newsletter. Note that it gets a little inflamattory in places - so make sure that the rest of the thread does not!


There's really no other way to say this -- Mr. Hickman needs, quite seriously, to get a life. I do not wish to disparage what seem to be genuine concerns, but he is so far over the top that it's impossible to take his words seriously.

The "Comics code" he speaks of (the TSR code of Ethics is what I think he is referring to) crippled a good deal of creative energy in the game market -- or, rather, redirected it, so that companies like White Wolf were able to tap into the creativity and edge which TSR forbade. While this was hardly responsible for TSRs decline -- even at the nadir, they outsold much of the competition -- it was responsible for the general blandness of the 90s 'mainstream' gaming scene.

No amount of trying to be 'nice' or 'good' has ever silences the narrow-minded nitwits who condemn gaming as 'evil'; all it has ever done is insult and drive away the fans. Not one critic of early D&D ever game out and said, "Now that they've renamed demons to Baatezu, we recommend this game for all parents." Nor will one ever. Jack Chick recently UPDATED his anti-D&D page, saying, in essence: "It's still evil! Still evil!!!!!"

Attempting to appease that segment of the populace is impossible. All it does is lead to ever more demands for ever more bowdlerization. Pat Robertson will never hawk D&D on the 700 club, and that is that.

And calling WORDS IN A MAGAZINE the moral equivalent of mass murder is so utterly despicable that I cannot believe someone who is a respected professional would sink to that level. Indeed, ANYONE who crafts words for a living should be very, very, careful about such facile comparisons -- it is the inability to disinguish fiction from reality, to tell words from deeds, that is at the heart of every censorship law.

(As a side note, on the issue of playing 'a firefighter or a terrorist'...there's a good article on Wired Online, discussing a hero cop who came to New York to help out following the 9/11 bombings and was lauded for his courage and commitment...and later arrested, several months later, for possession of kiddie porn. Hero AND villain -- in the same man. Good and evil aren't as simplistic as Mr. Hickman would have us believe.)
 

drnuncheon said:
Khan, if you mean Pat Pulling's organization, that was BADD (Bothered About Dungeons and Dragons), probably named to prevent confusion (but still identify with) MADD (Mothers Against Drunk Driving, a far worthier cause).

Jeff, you're quite right. I'm confused as to how I made that mistake, I guess I was too pissed off by Tracy's words and went stupid with that acronym, lol.

Thanks for the correction for those that didn't know the true name of the organization.
 

Just the fact that Tracy cites the Comic Book Code puts me off my lunch. The rest of the comment solidifies that.

The Comic Book Code was put in place by people just like Tracy who don't understand sometimes Adults want to read material that is written for Adults. The comic Book Code verged on impediment of free speech until recentlly Image opened the door to Non-CBC compliant mainstream comics. There have always been independents that noone read, but now there is a vast collection of adult orientated comics (no, not those kind :D )

In short, the Comic Book Code was, is, and always will be crap. It's the same story as the MPAA, parents willing to throw blame put a board of decision makers in place to judge what kids can see since they don't have the time. Starts out as a good idea but then gains a stranglehold on the entire business. Thank god we shrugged off the CBC.
 

Rename

Then B.A.D.D. (Bothered about Disposable Dragons) should probably be renamed D.A.D.D. (Dragons against Dungeon Delvers) to avoid any confusion :D
 

I think Monte Cooks latest line of sight sums up what Tracy has done wrong here.

You also have to take this at face value. Tracy's reaction is a rant. Rant's are often pointless expressions of deep frustrations and anger than the actual subject.
 

Grazzt said:

is just completely ridiculous in its own right. How does one article or book completely destroy 25 years? Um...ok..whatever.

He does have a point. There isn't any undoing this. Just as you're not putting b*tch, a**, and sh*t back in the bottle on american tv. (Even though the FCC is in the hands of the ultra conservatives.)

And it's a lot of ammo to be handing the kooks in america at this time. Espescially considering how much work these people have put into moving D&D into the mainstream. To see that put at risk, it must be disheartening. To see it risked for so little, and so poorly at that, well that must be infuriating.

Though his hyperbole does tend to drift a little to the absurd, there is a point worth examining. I for one, favor the hero rather than the villian. Sure, every good hero needs a great villian, but at the end of the story, win or lose, it's about the heroes struggle. And ultimately, any villian is a failed experiment in humanity. One has qualities worth emulating, and one has qualities worth gaurding ones self against.

Personally, I think doing "A Villians Tale" must ultimately be a tragic cautionary tale. But products like this seem to be geared towards those who just seek to revel in pointless sadism. Which might be a good thing, at least those so inclined aren't roaming the streets in search of small mammals to torture. So, to each their own.

But from a comercial standpoint, it seems quite the risk to play so carelessly with ones reputation for the modest revenue of a niche market. Particularly in an age when the requirements of being a person in media are above average looks, below average IQ, and an inability to use the word "integrity" in a sentence.

So much for my rambeling bout with empathy; after all, it's not like I'll be affected either way.
 

Kibo said:

(Even though the FCC is in the hands of the ultra conservatives.)

Really? As a non-certified member of the ulta-conservatives, I would let you know it has always been our theory it has been those quote opposite of us in charge of the FCC.

:rolleyes:

FD
 


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