[Trailer] Kingdom of Heaven (Ridley Scott)

[Klaus]

Not much of a twist, I'm afraid. From the dramatis personae, I would guess we're talking about the Templars, who are largely known in popular culture through Sir Walter Scott's various Templar villains, most especially in Ivanhoe, which has been done as a miniseries and movie many times.

Evil Templars are actually something of a cliche!

Which is why I liked a book titled Templars: Warriors of God, by Edward Burman, who didn't treat Templars as devil-worshipping heretics.

 

[WizarDru]

IPIPPIN: Ya know what else comes in pints, Merry?

MERRY: No, Pippin, what?

PIPPIN: Revenge, Merry. Revenge comes in pints, and I'm serving them up cold.

At. Work. MUST NOT LAUGH OUT LOUD. MUST. NOT. LAUGH!!!!

Stop that, you. (man, that's funny.)


As for Brad Pitt, maybe you have him confused with the excellent Brad Pitt from "Twelve Monkeys" and "Fight Club", a darn fine actor indeed. A great actor? No. But certainly not a bad one.

And as for Harrison Ford, he was branching out, but each one of those roles was part of what could be considered type-casting. Hanover Street? WW II fighter pilot. Force 10? WWII soldier. Heroes? Vietnam Vet. Frisco Kid? Outlaw Cowboy. Apocalypse Now? Vietnam soldier. You seeing a pattern, here?

Bloom has a great charisma, and the ladies find him easy on the eyes. Who knows what the future holds for him? If you'd told me that the guy from Bosom Buddies with the curly hair would become (IMHO) my generation's Jimmy Stewart, I would have looked at you funny, then. Only time will tell if Bloom will become a footnote or not.

 

[Banshee16]

Not much of a twist, I'm afraid. From the dramatis personae, I would guess we're talking about the Templars, who are largely known in popular culture through Sir Walter Scott's various Templar villains, most especially in Ivanhoe, which has been done as a miniseries and movie many times.

Evil Templars are actually something of a cliche!

Popular culture, and historical accuracy are very different things. There's plenty of support for the fact that the Templars weren't demon-worshipping murderers spreading suffering through the Holy Land.

I haven't read Ivanhoe in a long time...I'm going to have to refresh....I think the last time I read it was about 15 years ago or so.

Banshee

 

[Banshee16]

Wonders how many of you hate Bloom/Pit/Cruise because your significant other thinks they're purty...



Seriously though, I think Pit is a really good actor. He especially excells in "crazy" rolls. See 12 Monkeys.

Cruise....hmm.... I never really cared a lot for him but I really enjoyed The Last Samurai and Collateral.

As far as Bloom goes. Well, he was Legolas and I liked him there. Haven't seen Troy yet. Depp did such a good job in Pirates I forgot Bloom was even there. *shrug* I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. Maybe he just likes doing the fantasy/historical thing. I don't fault him for that, and if I were an actor, I'd jump on those movies too.

That said, and to go off on a tangent... Didn't the guy who wrote the script for The Core used to visit ENWorld? I ask because the same guy is apparently writing Transformers.

I suspect you have a point. I don't personally think that Brad Pitt sucks....though I think he's much better now than he was at the beginning. That's why I figure to see whether Bloom improves.

In any case, I suspect that it's pretty easy for guys to get typecast in fantasy/historical type roles. Learning to swordfight is not so easy....I suspect that for many producers, they'd like a known quantity rather than starting over with somebody who's never touched a sword in his life. I can't remember where I heard it, but I remember being told that knowing how to fence is actually a valuable skill for an actor, because it opens a lot of roles.

With all the big sword and sandal type movies out there and in development right now, I wonder if we'll see any of the stories that really haven't appeared on the big screen nearly as much.....Charlemagne, Beowulf and Grendel, Caesar and Cleopatra, anything with Vikings, etc. There's tonnes of stuff that would probably be great to see on film. Some of it has been done before...but I don't think Caesar has been covered in at least 20 years, unless it was in a TV mini series or something..

Banshee