[TRAILER] Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker

[Zardnaar]

based on comments in this thread and others,they already screwed it up by making it.

I think the main problem was they didn't have an overarching plot worked out.

JJ wrote one but got ignored apparently. Original plan was 3 directors.

And bringing the 3 OT stars would overshadow anyone new..

 

[Nebulous]

I think the main problem was they didn't have an overarching plot worked out.

JJ wrote one but got ignored apparently. Original plan was 3 directors.

And bringing the 3 OT stars would overshadow anyone new..

Not having a three part plot was a flaw. Imagine if they had hinted at Palpatine in Part 1, or if Snoke was a clone of Palpatine or related somehow. They could have gone many different directions if they'd been on board with a cohesive (logical) plot. But i'm sorry, even the first movie making the Empire MORE powerful than it had been at the end of Jedi when the second Death Star and all their leaders were annihilated, with the Rebels in control of the galaxy and then not even a hint of how the baddies came back into power again??

Looks like the 3rd movie is rehashing that again with the biggest space battles seen yet in a SW film. Wasn't the Resistance at like a couple ships left at the end of Part 2? The continuity is non existent. Even destroying Star Killer Base doesn't impact their resources at all.

 

[Zardnaar]

It seems like plausible off-screen development if the the Resistance went from the people aboard the Millenium Falcon at the end of TLJ to the huge fleet in this trailer.

But it all feels very... disconnected. Of course, it's just a trailer so far, so who knows... I am skeptical, but it's bascially guaranteed I'll watch this movie, too. I need to know how the trilogy ends. Kinda like I needed to know how the New Jedi Order ended in the novel line. :/

Plausible but it's going to feel disjointed or rushed.

There is a timejump but they only have one movie. Say if Akbar wasn't killed of screen and turned up with the remnants of the New Republic fleet. He could use the it's a trap line and ambush a star destroyer or something.

If they just conveniently hand them a fleet that looks bigger than the RotJ it's going to be a bit silly. Why bother wiping them out in the second movie (1st one maybe)

See how they ramp up both sides in the OT.

It will be like GoT where they have an epic battle almost wiped out next episode Dany has a big army again.

It was hinted there were others out their I suspect Lando might be used here. Execution will matter.

 

[Zardnaar]

Not having a three part plot was a flaw. Imagine if they had hinted at Palpatine in Part 1, or if Snoke was a clone of Palpatine or related somehow. They could have gone many different directions if they'd been on board with a cohesive (logical) plot. But i'm sorry, even the first movie making the Empire MORE powerful than it had been at the end of Jedi when the second Death Star and all their leaders were annihilated, with the Rebels in control of the galaxy and then not even a hint of how the baddies came back into power again??

Looks like the 3rd movie is rehashing that again with the biggest space battles seen yet in a SW film. Wasn't the Resistance at like a couple ships left at the end of Part 2? The continuity is non existent. Even destroying Star Killer Base doesn't impact their resources at all.

Yeah it's a bit silly and doesn't even make sense with their own canon outside the films.

Those resurgence class Star Destroyers are supposed to be Uber powerful. The 1st Order is supposed to be space Sparta, small and deadly.

I think nuking the New Republic fleet with a handful of those new ships and a new model TIE (or even the TIE Defenders from Rebels) would have got that point across. Subvert expectations and have the TIEs rip apart X-Wings but Poe shoots them down because he's that damn good.

Have the capital fall to an assault from this smaller but better imperial space Sparta, the survivors flee leading into the space chase in TLJ. The ship designs would pay tribute to the OT like the PT did with their ship designs.

They're going with bigger and moar though which they did alot in the early 90s.

 

[Nebulous]

Too little too late by now. Disney wanted JJ to do a rehash nostalgia film and that's what he did. Rian screwed the pooch in Part 2 because these dudes couldn't even get on the same page plot wise, and then Disney reigns JJ in again to wrangle the mess Rian made and package it up to look as best they can and sell it to the masses. Which, I'm sure they'll do very well, but I'm not drinking the cool aid. They've disappointed me too much.

One thing I do have to say, based on the trailer, The Mandalorian looks great. If it can actually live up to an original SW story remains to be seen.

 

[Zardnaar]

Too little too late by now. Disney wanted JJ to do a rehash nostalgia film and that's what he did. Rian screwed the pooch in Part 2 because these dudes couldn't even get on the same page plot wise, and then Disney reigns JJ in again to wrangle the mess Rian made and package it up to look as best they can and sell it to the masses. Which, I'm sure they'll do very well, but I'm not drinking the cool aid. They've disappointed me too much.

One thing I do have to say, based on the trailer, The Mandalorian looks great. If it can actually live up to an original SW story remains to be seen.

Disney can make good Star Wars. Rewatched TFA recently and it doesn't hold up well on repeated viewings and the effort made there wasn't followed up on.

Rogue One still good IMHO.

You've got Mandalorian, Clone Wars Season VII, and Jedi Fallen Order all of which could be good. Resistance got canceled.

They'll follow the money, seems obvious the fans aren't kids which Disney like marketing to.

 

[Nebulous]

Disney can make good Star Wars. Rewatched TFA recently and it doesn't hold up well on repeated viewings and the effort made there wasn't followed up on.

Rogue One still good IMHO.

You've got Mandalorian, Clone Wars Season VII, and Jedi Fallen Order all of which could be good. Resistance got canceled.

I actually didn't hate Solo. I thought I would hate it. I didn't hate it, although it was a very unnecessary film whose budget would have been better spent on a new star wars film.

Rogue One IS good. Not great, but good.

 

[Zardnaar]

I actually didn't hate Solo. I thought I would hate it. I didn't hate it, although it was a very unnecessary film whose budget would have been better spent on a new star wars film.

Rogue One IS good. Not great, but good.

Yeah Solo wasn't to bad, would count that as the second best SW Disney movie.

 

[Ovinomancer]

You claimed such things don't exist in Star Wars when they do. I even provided a link.

You post came across as snarky, I assume you didn't know because you don't follow the old EU or the new one outside of the movies.

You made an absolute statement and as we all know only the Sith deal in absolutes so I am forced to conclude you are in fact Darth Morrus

Anakin you missed one, he's in England.

No, they don't exist in Star Wars. They may have existed, but they've been excised. And, even when they existed, only a small subset of people knew about it.

It's like noting that once a genetic ancestor of humans had tails. Then, in a discussion of humans, you list tails as an attribute to make an argument about the number of apoendages on humans. People say humans don't have tails, but you say previous versions did, so humans /do/ have tails. People exchange glances and note the exits and smile nervously.

 

[Zardnaar]

No, they don't exist in Star Wars. They may have existed, but they've been excised. And, even when they existed, only a small subset of people knew about it.

It's like noting that once a genetic ancestor of humans had tails. Then, in a discussion of humans, you list tails as an attribute to make an argument about the number of apoendages on humans. People say humans don't have tails, but you say previous versions did, so humans /do/ have tails. People exchange glances and note the exits and smile nervously.

Hasn't been excised Disney still sells it under the legends label.

The games are still on sale as well

Doing pretty good for not existing.

Disney can do what they want. Personally haven't bought any toys, comics, books etc since they burned it down.

I heard they might be struggling to sell toys lol.

Since you're blatantly wrong do you want to humiliate yourself further?

There's some basic things they could have done better is the main point. It's understandable why they rehashed ABH with TFA, it's understandable why they didn't want to adapt the old EU (parts are a mess).