[TRAILER] Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker

Gradine

Archivist
Yeah, the glut of superweapons is probably one of the most commonly thought of tropes associated with the old Star Wars "Legends"; one would think a move away from those would help set the new canon apart.

Also sad to say that AotC is objectively the worst Star Wars movie, sorry I don't make the rules that's just science
 

Zardnaar

Hero
Personally moving away from superweapons, Skywalker's and the force is probably a good idea.

The Mandalorian should minimize any of that.
 

GreyLord

Adventurer
If talking about the worst Star Wars Movie, to me it is The Last Jedi.

If talking about the worst MOVIE of all the Star Wars series (a movie may be great, but be a bad Star Wars Movie. For example, the Last Jedi in my opinion is actually a MUCH BETTER MOVIE than the Force Awakens, but as a 'Star Wars' movie it didn't fill many fan expectations...thus why I feel there is such controversy about it among some groups)....

For me, it's the Phantom Menace. That movie has so many bad movie things about it (from the script to the choice of some of the actors to the stereotyping) that I'd actually put AotC above it any day of the week.

We all have different personal opinions on which movies are good or bad. I have no problem with someone saying AotC is their favorite anymore than if someone said TLJ or even one of the Ewok movies is their favorite. We all have different things that make us tick and our differences is one of the things that make the world interesting.
 

lowkey13

I'm sorry, Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that.
We all have different personal opinions on which movies are good or bad. I have no problem with someone saying AotC is their favorite anymore than if someone said TLJ or even one of the Ewok movies is their favorite. We all have different things that make us tick and our differences is one of the things that make the world interesting.
Again, there is a difference between someone saying something is their favorite, as opposed to someone saying something is the best.

Here's some examples:

If someone says that Star Trek V is their favorite Star Trek, I might have further questions, but, you know, whatever. On the other hand, if they say that this is the BEST Star Trek movie, I'd definitely need to understand what criteria they were using- for example, do they define "Best" as "Most Directed by Shatner?"

Same with most things.

Again, if someone wants to say that Die Another Day is their personal favorite Bond movie- fine. Maybe they need the Remington Steele like a sick person needs chicken soup. But if they say that it is the BEST James Bond movie? Eh ....


Now, all of this is open to a lot of reasonable discussion- as with anything artistic, there's going to be a lot of personal preferences. And there is balancing that will always occur; the value different people will place on acting, directing, plot, technical aspects, and so on. But you will find that, generally, there is a wide agreement that (for example) bad acting, bad directing, plot holes, and so on make the movie "worse" (unless you're looking at certain genres like camp).
 

Hussar

Legend
See, the funny thing about things like "Thrawn" or "Tie Defenders" being canon, is that they AREN'T the same Thrawn or Tie Defenders that we knew before. The Thrawn of Rebels isn't the Thrawn of the 90's novels. How do I know that? Because the 90's novels didn'T happen.
 

Zardnaar

Hero
See, the funny thing about things like "Thrawn" or "Tie Defenders" being canon, is that they AREN'T the same Thrawn or Tie Defenders that we knew before. The Thrawn of Rebels isn't the Thrawn of the 90's novels. How do I know that? Because the 90's novels didn'T happen.
He's quite close, the TIE Defender just had it's backstory changed.

Thrawn had essentially the same personality and carried his art thing across as well.

The new fluff doesn't really match what you're seeing onscreen and a TIE Defender would.
 

Hussar

Legend
Oh, without a doubt there's the obvious "based on" quality. Of course. But, they are not the same character. And, you can't really point to something like "Thrawn" as evidence of canon stuff being brought into the series. The Thrawn of Rebels isn't the same character. Any more than the Boba Fett of the books and whatnot is the same character that dies so ignominiously in RotJ. In canon, Boba Fett is a pointless character that does pretty much nothing. All the romance around him is later stuff that people have added in.
 

trappedslider

Explorer
Disney is done with Star Wars, at least for awhile, after Rise of Skywalker.

Disney CEO Bob Iger says, "Star Wars 9, which comes out this December will be the last of the Skywalker Saga and we’ll go into a hiatus for a few years before the next Star Wars feature."
 

Zardnaar

Hero
Apparently he lost it at a test screening which is where the Reddit stuff is coming from.

Next trilogy was supposed to be 2022, if that's changed that's 5 movies they've pulled the plug on.

They've also fired more directors etc than movies they've produced.
 

Gradine

Archivist
It's more that Disney is moving Star Wars from the big screen to the small screen for a bit while they sort out what actually works or not.

That said, I think given past track records we're significantly better off living in a world without a Josh Trank or Benioff/Weiss Star Wars film or three.
 

Legatus_Legionis

< BLAH HA Ha ha >
According to some "rumours", Disney/Lucasfilm screened three different versions of the film over the last few months.

The first film, by Kennedy/JJ, failed badly.
The second version, with ordered reshoots/edits by Iger, also failed, but not as badly.
The third version, with the input of George Lucas to the story and implemented changes, was the best by test audiences and has a "secret Skywalker" to rescue the trilogy.

No wonder the "trailer" did not reveal any story, if these "rumours" are true.
 

Zardnaar

Hero
He's not.

I use John Campea a lot. Not perfect and he is happy happy happy but generally knows what he's talking about.
 

Mustrum_Ridcully

Adventurer
Yeah... that really doesn't seem like a very credible source at all
Sounds like the Star Wars equivalent of that Midnight's Edge fellow. The story sounds implausible - they had 3 different versions of the same movie, including one version with "input" by George Lucas?
 

trappedslider

Explorer
Couldn’t you just not watch it, rather than keeping it from me too?
I should have left my reasoning in the post, that way it would be 100% new and they wouldn't have to deal with a fan base that grew up with it.

I've got no problems with the movies or the direction they are heading,just some of the fans and waiting for the fans and the fans kids kids to die seems like the best way to get around that lol
 

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