Transatlantic Sports Comparrisons (formerly Explain American football to me)

Olgar Shiverstone said:
OK, so explain to me cricket, rugby, and Australian-rules football.

I should let an Austrian explain "footy", because my understanding of the sport is pretty rudimentary. But, when I was a teenager, and we first got cable in the early 80s, ESPN used to fill their schedule with Australian and Canadian football, and I got addicted to both of them.

I know that the fundamental goal in Australian football is to kick the ball between the goalposts. There's 4 vertical goalposts: two tall ones, flanked by two shorter ones. Kicking it between the two tall ones gets you the most points (6?); kicking it between a tall one and a shorter one gets you a lower point (1?). I think you might also be able to get points by running the ball across a small goal line near the points, but I don't think I ever remember seeing anyone actually do that.

I think there's rules about how far you can run with the ball before you need to pass or hand it off to a teammate, but I'm not sure.
 

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Olgar Shiverstone said:
OK, so explain to me cricket, rugby, and Australian-rules football.
OK, I'll field the cricket one (if you'll pardon the pun :D).

A cricket pitch comprises two wickets (which are precariously balance wooden assemblies) 22 yeards apart. In front of each is a small area called the crease, where the batsmen stand. There are two batsmen in play at any one time, one in each crease. All eleven men on the fielding team are on the pitch. One is bowling, one is the wicket keeper (see below), and the rest are aranged around the field in a number of colourfully-named positions.

One batsman is facing the bowler, and he is said to be 'on strike'. The bowler bowls towards him from by the opposite wicket, with an overarm straigt-armed and, and he has to prevent the ball from hitting his wicket, and ideally hit the ball away from the fielders so he can run.

To score, both batsment have to run from the crease they are in to the other crease. That scores one run (and changes who is on strike). If they have time, they try for a second (AFAIK they can keep running as long as the fielders let them, but there is almost never time for more than a couple of runs). The other way to score is to get the ball to the boundary, which is rope around the edge of the pitch. That is worth 4 runs (or 6, if the ball doesn't bounce first).

The fielding team's job is to get the batsmen out. There are lots of ways to do this, but the main ones are bowled (where the bowler hits the wicket directly and the bails knocked off), caught (where a fielder catches the ball directly from the batsman's bat), and run out (where a batsmen tries for a run and the bails are knocked of the wiket he is running to before he gets into the crease), and LBW (where the batsman prevents the ball from hitting the wicket with his leg rather than the bat).

When ten of the eleven batsmen have been got out, the team is decribed as 'all out' (even though they are not :D), and that is the end of the innings. Then the fielding team get an innings of batting (and vice versa).

In test cricket, the teams get two innings each over four or five days. Both teams have to complete both their innings in the time, or the match is a draw regardless of the current score. Otherwise, if the fielding team bowls the batting team out in the last innings before they catch up on runs, then the are said to have won by the difference in runs. Conversly, if the batting team runs gets one more run then the fielding teams total, they are said to have won by the number of wickets they have left.


glass.
 

glass said:
Is it literally impossible (ie balls through hoops that come of defening players don't count)? Or just really, really unlikely?

Well, I believe that if it comes off a defender as in touches her after being shot by the opposition it gets credited to the shooter, and, well, a defender would have to be quite skillfully unlucky to put the ball through her own net, seeing as how high it is, and how you tend to be passing out of the circle if you have the ball as a defender.

As for the England football...well, quite. I also don't understand how, when we have some of the best true wide players in a generation or two available, in Wright-Phillips and Downing (and Lennon when he's fit) McClaren thinks playing with just wing backs out wide is smart...and don't even get me onto the whole Fat Frank thing...



To the question on explaining other sports, I'll give rugby a try (keeping up the puns).

There are two forms of Rugby. Rugby Union and Rugby League. I'll be writing from a Union standpoint, since I'm a soft southerner.

In Rugby, each team fields 15 players, who are split into forwards and backs. The 8 forwards are Loosehead and Tighthead props, hooker, 2 second row players, an open side and a blind side flanker, and a number 8. These players form the pack, and, in certain circumstances the game is restarted by these 8 players binding together and pushing against the opposition pack to get the ball to come out their side.

The 7 backs are the Scrum Half, who acts as the link between the pack and the rest of the backs; the Fly Half, who is the lynch pin and decision maker with the ball in hand; Inside and outside centre, who line up to the side of the fly half and are often the first line of attack with the ball, as they are likely to be the first to receive the ball from the Fly Half; left and right wings, which are fairly obvious descriptions - they work the side-lines; and finally the Full back. He's the last line of defence, and the wild card in attack.

There's a diagram of how the team lines up in the BBC's guide to positions here

Each match is 80 minutes in length, with 2 40 minute halves.

Teams score points by placing the ball down behind the opposition's try line (a Try, worth 5 points), kicking the ball between the opposition posts from a dead ball situation where the opposition has infringed (a Penalty, worth 3 points), kicking the ball out of hand through the opposition posts (a Drop Goal, worth 3 points) or kicking the ball through the posts from a dead ball as a reward for scoring a try (a Conversion, worth 2 points).

The ball is carried in hand and can only be moved from player to player by passing the ball backwards or by kicking it forwards and having them catch it. Anyone on your team who catches a ball you have kicked must come from behind you, however.

I realise this is an awful description now I've typed it. I'm sure someone else can come up with a better one, or you could look on the wikipedia page for Rugby Union. You could look up League, too, but that's the easy version played by daft northerners. Not as easy as American Football, you understand. They still pass backwards and don't wear padding, but they do stop somewhat when someone's tackled.
 

Olgar Shiverstone said:
OK, so explain to me cricket, rugby, and Australian-rules football.

- Olgar, the sports-confused (though after the last Olympics, I now understand curling! Or at least the rules to curling, not the "why" of curling ...)

The canadians shuffleboard lane got frozen over, so the played with brooms to keep the snow off one day, thus curling was invented.

at least thats how i picture it being invented.
 

glass said:
OK, I'll field the cricket one (if you'll pardon the pun :D).

Hey - -no puns. I was specificlly told this forum was a pun-free zone. :)

A cricket pitch comprises two wickets (which are precariously balance wooden assemblies) 22 yeards apart. In front of each is a small area called the crease, where the batsmen stand. There are two batsmen in play at any one time, one in each crease. All eleven men on the fielding team are on the pitch. One is bowling, one is the wicket keeper (see below), and the rest are aranged around the field in a number of colourfully-named positions.

One batsman is facing the bowler, and he is said to be 'on strike'. The bowler bowls towards him from by the opposite wicket, with an overarm straigt-armed and, and he has to prevent the ball from hitting his wicket, and ideally hit the ball away from the fielders so he can run.

To score, both batsment have to run from the crease they are in to the other crease. That scores one run (and changes who is on strike). If they have time, they try for a second (AFAIK they can keep running as long as the fielders let them, but there is almost never time for more than a couple of runs). The other way to score is to get the ball to the boundary, which is rope around the edge of the pitch. That is worth 4 runs (or 6, if the ball doesn't bounce first).

The fielding team's job is to get the batsmen out. There are lots of ways to do this, but the main ones are bowled (where the bowler hits the wicket directly and the bails knocked off), caught (where a fielder catches the ball directly from the batsman's bat), and run out (where a batsmen tries for a run and the bails are knocked of the wiket he is running to before he gets into the crease), and LBW (where the batsman prevents the ball from hitting the wicket with his leg rather than the bat).

When ten of the eleven batsmen have been got out, the team is decribed as 'all out' (even though they are not :D), and that is the end of the innings. Then the fielding team get an innings of batting (and vice versa).

In test cricket, the teams get two innings each over four or five days. Both teams have to complete both their innings in the time, or the match is a draw regardless of the current score. Otherwise, if the fielding team bowls the batting team out in the last innings before they catch up on runs, then the are said to have won by the difference in runs. Conversly, if the batting team runs gets one more run then the fielding teams total, they are said to have won by the number of wickets they have left.


glass.

Life, the Universe, and Everything makes much more sense now. I now understand the Golden Bail, etc.

Anyone for Brockian Ultra Cricket?
 

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