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John Crichton said:
I see it the opposite way. I think it's easy to know when he gonna put out something good or something wretched. If it has a decent concept or is based at all in reality, expect the worst. If the concept is over the top and ludicrous, expect to have fun.

Except that "The Island" was just awful, and the concept for that bore no more resemblance to reality than did "The Rock".

That's why I'm excited for this movie. Transformers is not a high concept, is it simply required to have awesome looking robots that turn into earth stuff, have some great fight scenes and blow stuff up real good.

Normally, I'd agree. But it's Transformers, which means he has my ridiculously inflated expectations to deal with. Call it "Big Robot Smackdown", and I'd judge it differently.

I know it's unfair, but that's the way that it is.

But, I'm not going to prejudge the film, and certainly not based on the director alone. I'll be there on opening night, ready to be entertained.
 

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delericho said:
Normally, I'd agree. But it's Transformers, which means he has my ridiculously inflated expectations to deal with. Call it "Big Robot Smackdown", and I'd judge it differently.

I know it's unfair, but that's the way that it is.

But, I'm not going to prejudge the film, and certainly not based on the director alone. I'll be there on opening night, ready to be entertained.
Yeah, the last thing I want is another Robot Jox film. :confused:
 


delericho said:
Except that "The Island" was just awful, and the concept for that bore no more resemblance to reality than did "The Rock".
The Island's concept was pretty good. You couldn't see a situation with
harvesting clones for rich folks
happening in the future like they presented in the movie? It's out there but not too far fetched.
 

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John Crichton said:
You couldn't see a situation with
harvesting clones for rich folks
happening in the future like they presented in the movie? It's out there but not too far fetched.

Like that? Not a chance.

Firstly, there is the hideous ethical concern. A small number of people might conceive of something like that and try to implement it, but not on the sort of scale needed for a company of the size indicated to exist. In all the years that that has been going on, they've never had one disgruntled employee leave and go to the newspapers?

Secondly, there's the huge cost involved in growing and feeding all those people, keeping them fooled as to the nature of the Island, and all the rest of the nonsense in the film. So, they have the ability and funding to build a utopian society in a bunker underground... and instead of selling that to their rich clients, they instead use it as a holding pen for a bunch of clones they've grown for those rich clients, all the while expecting to kill them off after a few years?

Thirdly, there's the whole notion of growing a whole clone, and keeping it alive, well in advance of when they expect to use it. One would expect that except in the most extreme cases, it would be better to store the genetic material in a great big freezer, and unthaw it when needed. Additionally, it's not a big step from growing a clone of a whole person to growing a clone of just the one required organ.

Frankly, "The Sixth Day" handled the subject better, and I thought that film was pretty awful, too.
 

delericho said:
Like that? Not a chance.

Firstly, there is the hideous ethical concern. A small number of people might conceive of something like that and try to implement it, but not on the sort of scale needed for a company of the size indicated to exist. In all the years that that has been going on, they've never had one disgruntled employee leave and go to the newspapers?

Secondly, there's the huge cost involved in growing and feeding all those people, keeping them fooled as to the nature of the Island, and all the rest of the nonsense in the film. So, they have the ability and funding to build a utopian society in a bunker underground... and instead of selling that to their rich clients, they instead use it as a holding pen for a bunch of clones they've grown for those rich clients, all the while expecting to kill them off after a few years?

Thirdly, there's the whole notion of growing a whole clone, and keeping it alive, well in advance of when they expect to use it. One would expect that except in the most extreme cases, it would be better to store the genetic material in a great big freezer, and unthaw it when needed. Additionally, it's not a big step from growing a clone of a whole person to growing a clone of just the one required organ.

Frankly, "The Sixth Day" handled the subject better, and I thought that film was pretty awful, too.
[sblock] And all that was better handled in the "World of Krypton" special by Mike Mignola in the 80s. Seriously, go check it out. [/sblock]
 

delericho said:
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That's why it's fiction, man. I think we should simply agree to disagree on this one. I think it's certainly possible that sometime in the future (100+ years) that things get so corrupt in one country that the situation presented is possible in some form. We are already heading in the direction of big corporations having way too much control.

To get back to my original point - The Island's setup wasn't all that good for a Bay action movie so that's why I think it failed to entertain (although it was better than Pearl Harbor). Slow and plausible plot do not mix well with Bay. He's much better (read: only good) with the over the top stuff and action scenes every 10 minutes.
 
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D.Shaffer said:
A lot of the TF fandom has their fingers crossed for Welker. I'm not sure I'm one of them.

I'm not sure if he can do a voice that matches the current incarnation of the character. He did a good 80's cartoon Villain megatron, but will he work for the more serious version we have for the movie?


Frank Welker can do just about any kind of voice imaginable. He's something of a legend in the voice acting business. A lot of the animal sounds you hear in movie are actually him. It'd be very weird not to use him for Megatron, because he'll probably end up doing other voices/sounds in the movie anyway.


He's done everything from Fred in Scooby-Doo to Slimer and Ray on the Real Ghostbusters. Seriously, dogs, cows, aliens, he can do anything. The sheer number of movies and TV shows he's been in is amazing.
 

Aaron L said:
Frank Welker can do just about any kind of voice imaginable. He's something of a legend in the voice acting business. A lot of the animal sounds you hear in movie are actually him. It'd be very weird not to use him for Megatron, because he'll probably end up doing other voices/sounds in the movie anyway.


He's done everything from Fred in Scooby-Doo to Slimer and Ray on the Real Ghostbusters. Seriously, dogs, cows, aliens, he can do anything. The sheer number of movies and TV shows he's been in is amazing.
I dunno. I kinda like the guy who narrates almost all of the movie trailers (and did a spot for the AIG commercial).
 

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