Trick or treat?

[jonesy]

Who are you talking to? You posted the wrong quote. Or maybe you just didn't read what it said.

 

[Umbran]

Are you saying that I cannot legally say anything to an individual that is under 18 years old in regards to his or her health?

No.

You were told that it was not your business. That it wasn't your place to initiate that discussion with someone else's child.

You asked for an explanation why. I offered an explanation - by the law and custom, raising that child is the business of the parents, legal guardians. It is not your duty, business, or problem, so it is not for you to start that conversation. There are some delegates (like schoolteachers, people who run after-school programs) who also have some authority, but even theirs is limited, and often debated. As a basically random stranger, beyond noting potential abuse to authorities, you have very little say in the matter.

A mind reader, are you?

What part of "I think you seem close to saying...." indicates mind reading? No claim is made about your thoughts. I reference only your words - what you are *saying*, not what you are *thinking*.

Why?

Law and custom have defined it as such, at least in the USA. Some things are for the parents or guardians of the child, not for you.

Why are law and custom set up that way? I could give a short answer, but then you could then ask why that answer was true. It is possible to keep asking "why" nearly forever. At some point, you reach the level of asking for more than a person can reasonably be expected to give in spare time on a hobby messageboard. If you do not understand why the rearing of other people's children is not your personal business, I suggest you go to your local child welfare agency, or a lawyer who specializes in parental rights, and ask them. They are better prepared to answer the question than I.

 

[Robin Hoodlum]

But I think you seem to be very close to saying, "I know what is right for someone else's kid, and reserve the right to impose that when I personally feel it is appropriate."

That's exactly what he is doing.
He's a progressive.

 

[Janx]

As for mean, life is cruel and mean, kids need to learn it. What is the difference between that and a 91-0 loss at football?

Meh, in Québec we do not have that culture of bullism and vadalism.

The difference is that a parent authorized his kid to play on a crappy football team (and potentially even knew his kid sucked at sports), and that the trouncing occurred under the parents unwitting/incompetent authorization.


A stranger walking up and saying anything to my kid that upsets her is at risk of lawsuit, sexual predation charges, a severe beating, or a .308 round fired at 1000m. Any of which are the parents potential reaction.

Law or not, strangers have zero expectation of safety in interacting with another person's kid.

So, in knowing that a parent is going to go ballistic on you if you told their figurative child that he/she was fat, are you REALLY going to risk it?

If you answer yes, isn't that the definition of trolling?

 

[Umbran]

He's a progressive.

Did you miss the fact that EN World has a "no politics" rule?

This commentary was inappropriate for this site. Please take to to some place (like, say Circvs Maximvs), where they encourage and enjoy it.

Personally, I expect CM would chew you up and spit you out, but maybe I'm wrong. If I am wrong, you might find you like the style there a lot more than on EN World.

 

[Robin Hoodlum]

tee hee

 

[Homicidal_Squirrel]

Tee hee confirmed.

 

[Kramodlog]

Who are you talking to? You posted the wrong quote. Or maybe you just didn't read what it said.

It is a quote from your post. I read it.

 

[Kramodlog]

The difference is that a parent authorized his kid to play on a crappy football team (and potentially even knew his kid sucked at sports), and that the trouncing occurred under the parents unwitting/incompetent authorization.

During Halloween parents accept that their kids go to strange people's house and beg for stuff. They shouldn't be mad when someone gives them something. There is not obligation to give out candy.

A stranger walking up and saying anything to my kid that upsets her is at risk of lawsuit, sexual predation charges, a severe beating, or a .308 round fired at 1000m. Any of which are the parents potential reaction.

And a lot of those will land you in jail. As for a law suit and false accusation are, well frivolous and false. Making threats on other hand is serious stuff that cna land you in jail.

Law or not, strangers have zero expectation of safety in interacting with another person's kid.

Actually, they can expect safety. And I am not even sure why are talking about safety. It wasn't mentioned anywhere.

So, in knowing that a parent is going to go ballistic on you if you told their figurative child that he/she was fat, are you REALLY going to risk it?

The real question is: would you risk prison for that?

If you answer yes, isn't that the definition of trolling?

People think that when someone has a different opinion than them it is trolling. I think they should just accept that people have different opinions instead of getting upset and make various threats.

 

[Kramodlog]

No.

You were told that it was not your business. That it wasn't your place to initiate that discussion with someone else's child.

You asked for an explanation why. I offered an explanation - by the law and custom, raising that child is the business of the parents, legal guardians. It is not your duty, business, or problem, so it is not for you to start that conversation. There are some delegates (like schoolteachers, people who run after-school programs) who also have some authority, but even theirs is limited, and often debated. As a basically random stranger, beyond noting potential abuse to authorities, you have very little say in the matter.

That person is free to do it, there is nothing preventing her from doing it, and the message is a the right one. If parents do not want kids to get that message, don't let their kids go knock on stranger's doors begging for stuff, cause they might get stuff that they do not like. Such is life.

What part of "I think you seem close to saying...." indicates mind reading? No claim is made about your thoughts. I reference only your words - what you are *saying*, not what you are *thinking*.

A metaphore, but basically your focusing on that instead of the message that was "nope, that is not my intention". /shrug

Law and custom have defined it as such, at least in the USA. Some things are for the parents or guardians of the child, not for you.

There is no law against what the woman is doing. Invoking law is a moot point. As for customs, you have adults telling kids, that aren't theirs, what is right or wrong all the time in public places. Like lower your voice, stop running, pick up that trash, etc. Dietery advice might be new (probably not that much, adults telling kdis they'll spoil their appetites is frequent), but it doesn't mean it should be done.

Why are law and custom set up that way? I could give a short answer, but then you could then ask why that answer was true.

A futurologist, are we?

It is possible to keep asking "why" nearly forever. At some point, you reach the level of asking for more than a person can reasonably be expected to give in spare time on a hobby messageboard. If you do not understand why the rearing of other people's children is not your personal business, I suggest you go to your local child welfare agency, or a lawyer who specializes in parental rights, and ask them. They are better prepared to answer the question than I.

No need to get over emotional, sheesh.