true resurrection

[hammymchamham]

Good point -- if you cast True Resurrection on your dead comrade's severed thumb, what happens? If the thumb grows into a new body for your comrades soul, what happens to the body left behind? Does it crumble to dust? And if not, how freaked will the resurrected person be if they later find their (thumbless) corpse? Or does the corpse itself become fully healed (perhaps missing a thumb, perhaps not), but is now stuck where the body was originally abandoned (and possibly missing all it's gear)?

Up to the DM, but that could very well lead to some interesting... events. What about an evil necromance using Animate Dead on a PC's dead corpse that had been reserected?

 

[Hand of Vecna]

heeheeheeheehee.....

 

[Hypersmurf]

I had a nefarious scheme in mind, but then I realised that the "soul can choose not to come back and knows who's asking" clause would make it not work

I guess I'm stuck with the months of preparation involved in creating an inert clone instead...

-Hyp.

 

[dkilgo]

Isn't there a spell that raises the corpse, but does not require the soul?

I thought there was one, but I can not find it.

 

[clark411]

I consider catching flying chunks of bard-flesh that are being ripped from the threshing machine that is a Blade Barrier to be a mini-game unto itself.

Does True Res simply mean we can detach body parts prior to death then, instead of needing a part present on the body at the moment of death?

 

[Hypersmurf]

Does True Res simply mean we can detach body parts prior to death then, instead of needing a part present on the body at the moment of death?

My reading of it is that if there is a body or part thereof in existence, you need to touch it to cast the spell. If the body has been wholly destroyed, you don't.

-Hyp.

 

[dkilgo]

The description of the spell True Ressurection does not state anything about having a part of the characters body in order to ressurect that particular character. In fact, it states that you can ressurect the character without any part of the body. Please, take a closer look at the spell because all you need is a character's soul that wants to be ressurected, and even then the soul has to make a wil save in order to not comply with the spell. "Ressurection", the 8th level spell, does state that you need to have a body part present in order to ressurect the character.

 

[Hypersmurf]

The description of the spell True Ressurection does not state anything about having a part of the characters body in order to ressurect that particular character.

Its range is "Dead creature touched".

In fact, it states that you can ressurect the character without any part of the body.

It says that by unambiguously identifying the creature you wish to raise, you can do so "if the body has been wholly destroyed".

If it hasn't been, I maintain that you need to touch whatever's left.

Please, take a closer look at the spell because all you need is a character's soul that wants to be ressurected, and even then the soul has to make a wil save in order to not comply with the spell.

You can never force someone to be raised. No Will save, they simply choose whether or not to come back.

"Revivification Against One's Will: A soul cannot be returned to life if it does not wish to be. A soul knows the name, alignment, and patron deity (if any) of the character attempting to revive it and may refuse to return on that basis. "

-Hyp.

 

[hammymchamham]

Its range is "Dead creature touched".

It says that by unambiguously identifying the creature you wish to raise, you can do so "if the body has been wholly destroyed".

If it hasn't been, I maintain that you need to touch whatever's left.

Agreed

 

[Archer]

I think the more relevant quote is "even if" that is to say that as long as you can clearly state who you are resurrecting and their soul still exists and is willing to return to life then a new body is created regardless of any other factor such as the body not being present ie. destroyed.