Undermountain not a rumor anymore

[DaveMage]

hey!

i gave you a near 1,000-page document... now you want more?

for shame, davemage.

for shame

I always want more.

 

[Wycen]

So, does that mean they included the old articles or not? Referring to: http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/archfr/ru

 

[trancejeremy]

I would like a huge dungeon, but one that is actually, well, good (or perhaps more accurate, playable). I found WLD disappointing because of its roach motel-ness (playersc can enter, but can't leave), and RA:RE was kinda repetitive (and also not exactly convient for adventuring). So I would love a huge dungeon like what Undermountain should be. But 160 pages doesn't seem enough to do it justice (and I'm not crazy about some of the authors, either).

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

I would like a huge dungeon, but one that is actually, well, good (or perhaps more accurate, playable). I found WLD disappointing because of its roach motel-ness (playersc can enter, but can't leave), and RA:RE was kinda repetitive (and also not exactly convient for adventuring). So I would love a huge dungeon like what Undermountain should be. But 160 pages doesn't seem enough to do it justice (and I'm not crazy about some of the authors, either).

Myself, I'm thinking if this is even remotely world-neutral, I'm sticking it under Ptolus, which already has the qualities you're talking about (for me). All that would really change is that Undermountain wasn't totally built by Blackcloak, but it includes a lot of older parts, like Ghul's Labyrinth (which may be part of the Undermountain concept anyway, I don't know).

 

[Angel Tarragon]

Regardless of this being for one spefici campaign or setting-less, this'll be a must buy for me.

 

[dargoth3]

Arent the Expedition to X series of books 224 pages?

Wizards have Expedition to Ravenloft listed as 224 page book on their website

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=products/dndacc/953937200

 

[MerricB]

As a point of comparison, the original Ruins of Undermountain boxed set had:
One 128 page Campaign Guide
One 32 page Adventures book
Maps
8 small cardboard "dungeon dressing" cards

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The text density of RHoD and RoU seems about the same. (Many 2e products had a woeful text density - I daresay that the Complete Warrior, a 128-page book of 2e, would fit in a 64-page book of today).

I'm looking forward to XtU. It'll be FR.

Cheers!

 

[Imruphel]

As a point of comparison, the original Ruins of Undermountain boxed set had:
One 128 page Campaign Guide
One 32 page Adventures book
Maps
8 small cardboard "dungeon dressing" cards (snip)

... whereas the new undermountain will have:

- one 128 page-book of stat blocks;
- one 32 page-book of adventures AND maps; and
- that's all.

Then there will be a 64-page book of errata for the stat blocks once John Cooper has done the job of the editors, oops, done his review.

I like FR products a lot but this is going to be a joke: we'll be lucky to get about twenty rooms.

 

[Lidgar]

It'll be a hardcopy of the Undermountain series from the WOTC website with some background and adventure hooks. Sorry, turning cynical mod off now...

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

It'll be a hardcopy of the Undermountain series from the WOTC website with some background and adventure hooks. Sorry, turning cynical mod off now...

I'm hoping it'll be more than the 12 or so rooms in that series.