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'Underworld': The horrors of war
By WILLIAM ARNOLD
SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER MOVIE CRITIC
The most interesting thing about the splashy horror film, "Underworld," is that, despite the claims of its publicity campaign, it's not really a horror movie at all -- nor is it the horror/erotic Romeo and Juliet story that's been billed in the fall previews.

Yes, there's a whiff of a star-crossed, Ann Rice-ian love story at its core. Yes, every character in the movie is either a vampire or a werewolf. And, sure, there's plenty of blood-letting, ghoulish attacks from dark corners and morphing, Lycian transformations.

But the thing is more properly a war movie. Its mythic horror characters fight each other not with fang and claw but with blazing machine guns and high-tech pistols firing bullets loaded with light-beams (against the vampires) and silver nitrate (against the werewolves).

The drama of its scenes deals not with suspense and creeping terror but with strategy and the legacy of ancient history. It's Shakespearean in its political machinations and closer to "Saving Private Ryan" and "Starship Troopers" than to "Dracula" or "The Howling."

As such, there's an epic silliness about it that the movie never quite overcomes. But it's also completely true to its style and sensibility, and it builds a furious, absorbing momentum that gradually just sweeps you away, almost against your will.

Set in some unnamed, rain-swept European city (it was filmed in Budapest), the movie takes place at the climax of a thousand-year-old blood feud between a coven of vampires and a pack of werewolves, and its story opens with a blistering shootout on a subway.


The main character is Selene (Kate Beckinsale), a beautiful young vampire with an itchy trigger finger, who stumbles upon and finds herself attracted to the object of this opening melee: a closet Lycan (Scott Speedman) who unknowingly holds the fate of the war in his bloodstream.

On this premise, first-time director Len Wiseman constructs a macabre combat movie that is essentially one long action sequence: a single adrenaline rush, punctuated by only a few tense breathing spaces that don't really serve as down time.

It's the kind of movie that, if you fail to get with it from the start, can be absolutely agonizing to sit through -- especially with a two-hour-plus running time. And if you blink, you can get lost in the complexity of its hastily established but narratively vital back story.

But, if you do get aboard, it's all strangely engrossing, and the film works as an exhilarating celebration of the gothic style. Indeed, it may be the first major film aimed primarily at the modern goth subculture -- with no concessions or condescending humor for the rest of us.

At the center of all this mayhem, Beckinsale makes a most stunning focus. With her flowing black coat and steely Taoist confidence, she may be a bit too obviously a female version of Keanu Reeves' Neo, but she's poetry in motion and she projects an exquisitely soothing intelligence and determination.

As the calcified elder of the vampire clan, Bill Nighy is even more effective. In fact, he creates a character of such awesome, malignant power that he single-handedly centers the movie and pulls off (considering he's best known as a comic actor) what could well be this movie year's most dazzling change of pace.
 

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And also is listing it as the number one box office movie for this weekend. This movie very well may turn out to be a box office hit, and well liked by the fans, but have only a mediocre opinion from the critics.
 

I thought the movie was beautiful and deserves better then getting smashed by the critics. I liked that it took it self seriously (Someone earlier compared why Conan the Barbarian was so much better then it's sequel). I heard there are already talks of a sequel I hope they leave the jokes out (ex. Werewolf sticks a stake into a vampire and pins her to the wall "Stick around").
 

Yup, Underworld took the #1 slot, and it was not even in the most number of theatres (and was in fact in fewer theatres than two other top 10 movies this weekend).

Underworld SONY $22,000,000
 

My friends took me to Underworld today, and while it had some neat moments, on the whole I found it to be mediocre. I'd describe it as Blade meets The Matrix, but not as good as either. I didn't even like it as much as Once Upon a Time in Mexico.

I can also say that, having seen the movie, White Wolf is grasping at straws with their lawsuit against Sony. The similarities between the two universes are small at best. I'd even go so far as to say that the vampires in Blade have more in common with White Wolf's vampires than the vampires in Underworld.
 
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Mistwell said:
Yup, Underworld took the #1 slot, and it was not even in the most number of theatres (and was in fact in fewer theatres than two other top 10 movies this weekend).

Underworld SONY $22,000,000
Not bad for a movie that cost...22 million. :cool:
 

My wife and I saw it 1 and 2/3rds times today - we both really liked it (OK, she loved it, but she's a pushover for vamp anything) :D

ANY gamer, or any vampire or werewolf fan owes it to themselves to see this movie in the theater before hearing too much about it - I don't see how many of those fans couldn't enjoy it, or find something to like from it.

It was better than I was expecting - I'm fairly critical of films when they don;t work, and I think the makers of this film should get much more props than they have so far for putting something like this together and actually having it work.

It worked better than Blade, both 1 and 2, it worked better than .. well, there really haven't been too many movies with Vampires at war.
And that's what this movie was - a war movie, set in a Gothic backdrop of vampires and werewolves, with political machinations and romantic undertones.

I enjoyed the maneuverings by the characters, and how they revealed the backgrounds, only to flip them on its ear later on. I thought those elements worked quite well, even better than drama/action movies that try the same kind of things but don't have the benefit of vampires & werewolves.

Kai Lord is right on in his review, and I didn't see any jarringly bad FX or performances by the actors.
 

One member of our gaming group saw it last week in a sneak preview and warned us that the movie was bad. Dispite his warnings I am a vampire fan and still wanted to see the movie. I will have to have a talk with my frend when we game next because I have no idea how he could call it bad. I normally am very harsh on action movies and effects driven movies for thier giant plot holes, surprisingly I found few things to complain about and all of them minor enough that they did not take away at all from my enjoyment of the film (compared lets say to LXG). The CGI blended into the movie and the Matrix efects were subdued enough that I didn't mind them. I even enjoyed some of thier background concepts and found them to be an original take on legends without hurting the genre, plus I have no idea how WW thinks this is based on WoD. I will agree that the actor playing Kraven was bad, but not not so much as to reduce my enjoyment, and really good acting/casting from others more than made up for this one bad choice. Surprisingly it has made it into my top 5 Vampire movie list, and since it has already paid for itself a sequal will be welcomed (at least until I see what they do with it).
 

Mistwell said:
Yup, Underworld took the #1 slot, and it was not even in the most number of theatres (and was in fact in fewer theatres than two other top 10 movies this weekend).

Underworld SONY $22,000,000
It will be interesting to see how much drop off it has next week. It got released at a good time when there wasn't a lot of direct competion coming out at the same time (once apon a time in Mexico and Cabin Fever both came out last week and they were probably it's biggest competition for young adult and teen $). It was also the most downloaded film trailer from Sony ever and actually had a pretty good buzz going (it's target audience isn't really one that is influenced by critics anyway, I heard several people talking, and many of them showed up just because the commercials were cool (one guy didn't even know it was about vampires, he just thought the commercial was neat). Mexico dropped 50% from last week, I wonder if this movie will have any better lasting power?
 


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