Unearthed Arcana Unearthed Arcana: Spirits Bard and Undeath Warlock

We have a new UA release with two subclasses. The College of Spirits Bard is a fortune teller or spirit medium type character with a big random effect table. Meanwhile the Undeath Pact Warlock is a a do-over of the Undying Pact Warlock.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

The difference is that minmaxing can make an individual more successful, which (understandably I think) is something many players like.

Given that D&D is a co-op game not a competitive game, nope.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

Given that D&D is a co-op game not a competitive game, nope.

Are you really gonna argue that people don’t enjoy making their character more effective?

 

[Levistus's_Leviathan]

Given that D&D is a co-op game not a competitive game, nope.

The definition of min-maxing is basically what @Micah Sweet said. Min-maxing is making just your character super effective at one thing.

 

[Undrave]

when is the survey usually up?

 

[Levistus's_Leviathan]

when is the survey usually up?

Usually a month later when they release the next UA, but the last survey was released a week after the UA.

 

[Micah Sweet]

Given that D&D is a co-op game not a competitive game, nope.

It's a co-OP game where everyone wants to be awesome, not just a cog in the party machine. Individual achievement does matter to most people.

 

[Parmandur]

The difference is that minmaxing can make an individual more successful, which (understandably I think) is something many players like.

5E has achieved a balance where minmax is meaningful, but not minmaxing doesn't render a character meaningless. It's something that is rewarding without being necessary for fun.

 

[Parmandur]

Usually a month later when they release the next UA, but the last survey was released a week after the UA.

Yeah, they like to let people sit with an option before they gather feedback. I expect that we will hear about the November product next week, or maybe the next, based on history. I think what they do for the survey might depend on whether this is a last second test for that book, or an early test for something in 2021 (Innistrad, Ravenloft?)

 

[Levistus's_Leviathan]

Yeah, they like to let people sit with an option before they gather feedback. I expect that we will hear about the November product next week, or maybe the next, based on history. I think what they do for the survey might depend on whether this is a last second test for that book, or an early test for something in 2021 (Innistrad, Ravenloft?)

I think that because this is coming out so soon before a November release, and due to the flavor differences that this is meant for a different setting.

 

[Parmandur]

I think that because this is coming out so soon before a November release, and due to the flavor differences that this is meant for a different setting.

Yeah, I reckon so: don't get the urgent vibe from the last second Ravnica test, and it's a bit late for Q4.