D&D 4E Updating the Goliath to 4E.

[ff6shadow]

I'm just trying to update the goliath for a player who's character is one. I just wanted to ask opinions and advice.

Goliath
+2 Str, +2 Wis
Skills - +2 Endurance, +2 Insight
Oversized - Same as Minotuar
Mountain Movement - Always considered to have a running start for jumping.
Durable - Take 1 less damage from anyb source of ongoing damage.

Mighty Swing Goliath Racial Power
Encounter
Standard Action Burst 1
Target: All creatures in the area
Attack: Str +2 vs. AC
Hit: Strength modifier damage and push targets one square. Make a secondary attack against successfully hit targets.
Secondary Attack: Str vs. Fort
Target takes Strength modifier damage and is prone.
Miss: Half Strength modifier damage

Feats
Hardened Skin (Heroic)
Prerequisites - Con 13, Goliath
You gain a +1 racial bonus to AC

Improved Swing (Paragon)
Prerequisite - Str 13, Dex 13, Might Swing racial power, Goliath
Your Mighty Swing racial power gains the Weapon keyword.
Additionally, the primary attack deals 1[W] + Strength modifier damage instead of Strength modifier, increasing to 2[W] at 21st level. If your not wielding a melee weapon, W is 1d6

Goliath Weapon Training (Heroic)
Prerequisite - Goliath
Gain gain proficiency with great axes and all hammers. You gain a +2 feat bonus to damage will all axes and hammers.

Overbearing Size (Paragon)
Prerequisite - Str 13, Con 13, Goliath
Whenever you would push or slide and opponent, you can push or slide that opponent 1 extra square.

Suprising Reach (Paragon)
Prerequisite - Goliath, Str 13, Dex 15
By using a move action, you can extend the reach of your melee attacks by 1 square and any melee powers with a burst have their size increased by one square untio the end of your turn.

 

[Tehnai]

I kinda do like it, with one exception. The suprising reach feat.

The only problem I do have with the feat, however, is the fact that it uses a move action to do something that is not movement. I honestly think that shouldn't happen anymore, it's a 3e-ism. I'd say something like : Whenever you use an action point, you gain reach.

 

[ff6shadow]

With surpising reach, I was veiwing the move action as regaining you balance. You over extend yourself to reach farther than normal, but then instead of being able to move, you have to regain you balance. What do you think about it when viewed that way?

 

[Tehnai]

It's not a question of view or explaination, it's a question of consistency (/s?).

You can look anywhere through the book, and you won't find anything that uses a move action that isn't about moving.

Another good alternative would be that you can get reach until the end of your turn, but you grant combat advantage until the end of your next turn.

Or if you absolutely want it to use an action, make it a minor action.

Color me close minded, but I strongly believe move actions should be about moving

Giving it a second look, though, the race seems a bit too powerful.

The oversized AND the "I eat ungoing for breakfast" abilities may be a bit too powerful. I say go for the oversized, drop the ongoing (if only to reduce bookkeeping).