VoP Monk

1st level use your 2 feats to buy Sacred Vow and Vow of Poverty, the abilities aren't retroactive so you lose out if you don't start off with it. Take Stunning Fist as your Monk bonus feat, there are exaulted feats that use it. As mentioned take ranks of survival also ranks of Heal, Knowledge Nature, and Knowledge Dungeoneering. Herbalism would be nice too.

2nd level you get an Exaulted bonus feat, take Intuitive Attack, as wisdom should be your highest stat this will increase your hit ratio considerably. As for your monk bonus feat, either/or both are useful, depends on the game. Combat Reflexes if your seeing a lot of close quarters, Deflect Arrows if you want to avoid being pin-cusioned. I've always found Deflect Arrows more useful in the long run.

3rd level, your second character feat, dodge, combat expertise, or weapon focus unarmed (especially useful for Flurry of Blows) are all good choices, depends on where you want to end up. Dodge will eventually get you to spring attack, Combat expertise will make your already high AC insane, but weapon focus gives yet anouther +1 to attack, remember monks do damage by large number of hits not by single power blows.

4th level, Ki strike+Exaulted strike, you gain a slight advantage over the non-VoP monk in the Exaulted strike gives a +1 bonus to hit and damage as well. There's also an Exaulted feat waiting for you, I'd suggest Nimbus of Light but merely as a prereq for holy radiance, or Touch of Golden Ice (which by the way does work on demons that are immune to poisons).

All you have to do is survive one level to get sustaining so you no longer need to eat or drink
 

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Amitiel said:
1st level use your 2 feats to buy Sacred Vow and Vow of Poverty, the abilities aren't retroactive so you lose out if you don't start off with it.
You only miss out on a few exalted feat slots, and you will have more slots than there are feats to take eventually anyway, so its not a big deal. It is a good idea to take them at first level, but it isn't a huge problem no to if there is something else you want.


glass.
 

Goldmoon said:
Ive decided to play a monk in my friends Eberron Campaign. Im considering taking the VoP feat from BoED but havent made up my mind. Has anyone had experience with this? Pros? Cons? Any other feats that mesh well with this one? We will be starting at 4th level and I have decided to play a Human. I know that this is kinda what you all do so have at it please.

I would suggest listening to some of RPGMp3's play-through of the World's Largest Dungeon to get a good feel for what you'll be facing, as one of the players played a cleric with Vow of Poverty for the first few levels, then (two PC deaths later) a half-dragon monk with (IIRC) Vows of Poverty, Nonviolence, and Peace. It made for a very interesting dynamic as he was quite tough for a single person, but quite limiting to the rest of the party's options due to his moral stance.

Do bear in mind that the WLD is not a traditional environment, and his utility may have been skewed because of that. But it certainly gives you some insight into how it can affect the rest of the table.
 

Thank you very much all, I appreciate the advice and help. I'll be sure and share how it goes. It looks like someone else in the group will actually be playing a warforged monk. I'm curious which will turn out better.
 

glass said:
You only miss out on a few exalted feat slots, and you will have more slots than there are feats to take eventually anyway, so its not a big deal. It is a good idea to take them at first level, but it isn't a huge problem no to if there is something else you want.


glass.

Actually the +4 AC at first level was more what I was thinking of.
 


Goldmoon said:
Thank you very much all

My biggest concern would be with the level of magic the DM plans to use. If he doesn't give out much magic then you will be ahead of the curve but if he gives out a bit more then you're character will not be as good as theothers. Also, the VoP bonsues are set in stone, where the other PCs can get magical gear that depends on the situation. For instance we went on a boat adventure and everyone but our VOP monk at the time was able to get rings of swimming and items to help breathe in water. The monk not able to have those items really suffered during that adventure.
 

Crothian said:
My biggest concern would be with the level of magic the DM plans to use. If he doesn't give out much magic then you will be ahead of the curve but if he gives out a bit more then you're character will not be as good as theothers. Also, the VoP bonsues are set in stone, where the other PCs can get magical gear that depends on the situation. For instance we went on a boat adventure and everyone but our VOP monk at the time was able to get rings of swimming and items to help breathe in water. The monk not able to have those items really suffered during that adventure.

If someone were willing to spring for a scroll to cast water breathing on him, that wouldn't be a problem. Remember, it specifically states that characters with Vow of Poverty can benefit from spells cast on them by other people.
 

Be cautious with vows like Vow of Peace. Character abilities that interfere with other party members can irritate players. Also, you can put yourself in a situation where you are very difficult to harm, but also have trouble doing damage yourself. Your foes can end up just ignoring you.
 

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