Voting for ENnies but not knowing all the nominees?

[Clueless]

I think it going to be open for a few weeks. More then 2, perhaps 3.

Thanks.

 

[grodog]

I heartily want to entreat all the publishers to include samples of their products as pdf downloads on their sites. In fact, I'm going to go pester folks about that now.

We have some info about Valus on our site at http://www.diffworlds.com/valus.htm, in particular the Intro chapter at http://www.diffworlds.com/images/valus/valus_04-07.pdf but I'm going to see if we can put up additional info as well.

 

[Umbran]

Choosing to defet to someone elses's judgement is as legitimate a way of forming an opinion as any.

Sorry, but I'm an empirical evidence kind of guy. I don't think taking someone else's word for it is as solid a basis for an opinion as actually looking at the thing yourself. Voting based on the opinions of others would seem, to me, to be like deciding that I like Thai food because others like it, when I've not tasted it myself.

The opinions of others are good for figuring out if you want to use your hard-earned money and/or time developing your own opinion. I have this quirk in my head that says that your vote should be your own, well-founded opinion, and not the opinions of others cobbled together.

 

[Bobitron]

Candidate
D&D: The First 30 Years, E. Gary Gygax
Postmodernist Sociology and Gaming, Ron Edwards
3E D&D: the Windows 95 of Gaming, Stuart Parker
Dragonlance: A Tale of Merciless Exploitation, Tracy Hickman
Hatred vs. Ambivalence: 30 Years of Church-Gamer Relations, Jeff Ranger

Thanks for those titles, Billy. The smile is still on my face. You rock.

 

[Crothian]

Sorry, but I'm an empirical evidence kind of guy. I don't think taking someone else's word for it is as solid a basis for an opinion as actually looking at the thing yourself. Voting based on the opinions of others would seem, to me, to be like deciding that I like Thai food because others like it, when I've not tasted it myself.

The opinions of others are good for figuring out if you want to use your hard-earned money and/or time developing your own opinion. I have this quirk in my head that says that your vote should be your own, well-founded opinion, and not the opinions of others cobbled together.

Well, there is no system installed for policing peoples reasons for voting. They are free to roll dice, flip coins, vote based on what their cat likes etc. It is a public vote.

 

[Umbran]

Well, there is no system installed for policing peoples reasons for voting.

While that's true, I'm not sure I see why it is relevant. This is a discussion of how people might vote in the face of lack of information. It is clearly not a discussion of enforcing any particular one methodology over others.

 

[Dark Psion]

Then start a thread and tell us what we nominated that should not have been, and what should have been nominated instead.

Of all the books that are nominated, I own only two.

Of the rest, many of them I have heard of, but since the few local bookstores that do carry RPGs only carry WotC, I've never even glanced thru them. And to be honest, if it is not d20, it is going to have to try harder to get my money right now.

And the remaining books, I never heard of them before and if there are that many new books I've never seen, I am probably not the best person to pick nominies.

 

[Dextra]

Getting Informed

Already over 1,000 people have voted. For those who haven't yet (you've got until the 8th of August IIRC), and don't own all of the books/products, here's some hints.

1. Check out the ENnie Nominated Products Sale at DTRPG. By buying one of the products, not only do you get to add a fabulous book to your collection, you support the nominated publishers. DTRPG isn't getting a cut of the action for this sale- all the money goes to the publisher.
2. Visit your FLGS and check out the books. Tell the owners about the ENnies while you're at it. Feel free to print out the flyer
3. Visit the company web sites. Many of the sites have additional specials, and may be clever enough to put up sample work. At the very least, you should be able to check out the covers!
   Atlas Games
   Bad Axe Games
   Black Industries
   Blue Devil Games
   Burning Wheel
   Different Worlds
   Dog House Rules
   Expeditious Retreat Press
   Fantasy Flight Games
   Fiery Dragon Productions
   The Game Mechanics
   Goodman Games
   Green Ronin
   Guardians of Order
   Hero Games
   Iron Crown Enterprises
   Malhavoc Press
   Mongoose Publishing
   Muse of Fire
   Necromancer Games
   Paizo Publishing
   Panda Head Productions
   Parent's Basement Games
   PCGen
   Privateer Press
   Red Spire Press Games
   Skeleton Key Games
   ST Cooley Publishing
   Steel Sqwire
   Troll Lord Games
   White Wolf Publishing
   www.Againsttheshadow.org
   www.buffy.velvet-edge.com
   www.d20srd.org
   www.modus-operandi.co.uk
   www.planewalker.com

Be an informed voter!

 

[TonyLB]

Muse of Fire, actually. The top page is me too, but it's me in my video-editing, animation capacity. The link here goes to the RPG stuff.

EDIT: And, for what it's worth, I think got Denise the wrong information. So, totally all my fault, no error on their part, just me chasing down my own errors.

 

[MulhorandSage]

As others are linking to samples of their work, I figure I'd do the same. Here's the link to the sample for Villainy Amok:

http://www.herogames.com/Previews/VAMOK_preview.pdf

Also, consumer comments can be found amid the usual chatter in:

http://www.herogames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30650&highlight=Villainy+Amok