Vow of Poverty

[kmdietri]

Do you think a character with the Vow of Poverty Feat could use someones clothes, say a uniform or something, to wear them as part of a disgiuse?

If so could he wear a weapon even if he never weilded it?

 

[Rystil Arden]

Do you think a character with the Vow of Poverty Feat could use someones clothes, say a uniform or something, to wear them as part of a disgiuse?

If so could he wear a weapon even if he never weilded it?

No, you can't do any of this, although you could have someone disguise you with illusion magic. You can't even use a key to open a locked door, or write something with paper and pen.

 

[smootrk]

A vow of poverty is not a vow of 'you use anything'. Even lowly monks who gave up their possesions have access to a variety of tools, implements, and the like from their monestary. Your character should be able to use any appropriate tools available as long as he does not aim to own it for himself. Party objects should be fair game for use.

 

[Rystil Arden]

A vow of poverty is not a vow of 'you use anything'. Even lowly monks who gave up their possesions have access to a variety of tools, implements, and the like from their monestary. Your character should be able to use any appropriate tools available as long as he does not aim to own it for himself. Party objects should be fair game for use.

That may make sense from a flavour perspective, but read the rule on the feat again. Its quite explicit.

 

[smootrk]

Wearing a set of clothes or using a pen does not constitute ownership in my humble opinion, whatever the feat description may say. Magical items and such are understandable. A writing instrument would be necessary for a mage character for instance, and strikes me as a tool that could be carried... now if it was a deluxe gold and jeweled pen, no way.

 

[Rystil Arden]

Wearing a set of clothes or using a pen does not constitute ownership in my humble opinion, whatever the feat description may say. Magical items and such are understandable. A writing instrument would be necessary for a mage character for instance, and strikes me as a tool that could be carried... now if it was a deluxe gold and jeweled pen, no way.

It doesn't say ownership. Look:

To fulfill your vow you must not own or use any material possessions...

 

[kmdietri]

I know it says you can own one set of clothing, but I can't remember what it stipulates about those clothing.

Could you simply replace your current clothing with whatever clothing was part of the disquise?

 

[smootrk]

I can see that you are a rules lawyer type (no offense meant by that term), I believe you feel that the letter of the law (rule) is more important than the 'intent' of the rule. We have a difference of opinion here. I am sure the intent of the rule is not so stringent, as it allows some usage of even magical items, for instance: 'borrowed' potions or rides on companion's ebony fly.

 

[Crothian]

Do you think a character with the Vow of Poverty Feat could use someones clothes, say a uniform or something, to wear them as part of a disgiuse?

If so could he wear a weapon even if he never weilded it?

Sure, I'd allow it.

 

[Rystil Arden]

I can see that you are a rules lawyer type (no offense meant by that term), I believe you feel that the letter of the law (rule) is more important than the 'intent' of the rule. We have a difference of opinion here. I am sure the intent of the rule is not so stringent, as it allows some usage of even magical items, for instance: 'borrowed' potions or rides on companion's ebony fly.

It specifically allows those things, and it does not allow anything not stated therein.