Warlock - Multiple Cursed targets and damage

[Naszir]

A warlock has two targets cursed and then is able to damage them both with an AoE spell. Do both the targets take Curse damage or do only one of them take Curse damage?

 

[Tale]

You may apply curse damage only once per round. Therefore, only 1 target may take the curse damage.

 

[Kazinsky]

The other distinction is the triggering of pact abilities upon death of cursed targets. This feature you can gain multiple times per round; gained each time something cursed dies.

 

[abyssaldeath]

From Compendium

If you hit a cursed enemy with an attack, you deal extra damage. You decide whether to apply the extra damage after making the damage roll. You can deal this extra damage once per round, so if you have dealt Warlock’s Curse damage since the start of your turn, you cannot deal it again until the start of your next turn

I personally find it unclear whether the bolded text is referring to curse as a whole or to the specific target being hit. Being able to curse multiple targets leads me to believe it's per target hit, but I can't be sure.

 

[Nifft]

Ignore the Rules Compendium; it's poorly maintained.

Look at the official errata update docs, instead:

Warlock’s Curse [Revision/Addition]
Player’s Handbook, page 131
Replace the third sentence of the first paragraph with the following: “If you hit a cursed enemy with an attack, you deal extra damage.”

Add the following clause to the end of the last sentence of the first paragraph: “so if you have dealt Warlock’s Curse damage since the start of your turn, you cannot deal it again until the start of your next turn.”

Cheers, -- N

 

[Lauberfen]

Slightly related, if you were to use an AP to cast hellish rebuke twice on the same target, would they then take twice the damage when you got hurt (presumably yes, although it might not stack).

 

[Zaruthustran]

A warlock has two targets cursed and then is able to damage them both with an AoE spell. Do both the targets take Curse damage or do only one of them take Curse damage?

In 4E you roll 4E damage once, and apply to all targets of the same attack. So I think that since both targets are curse, roll your curse damage too and apply to both. You're still doing curse damage 1/round--your curse damage is applying to a single attack.

Though I can see it the other way too, with the more restrictive interpretation that curse damage applies to one target once per round.

 

[Azurecrusader]

Slightly related, if you were to use an AP to cast hellish rebuke twice on the same target, would they then take twice the damage when you got hurt (presumably yes, although it might not stack).

Normally, "ongoing" damage doesn't stack. So if you took 5 ongoing fire damage and another 5 ongoing fire damage you would only take 5 ongoing fire damage. Only the highest damage of the same type is applied.

I would think this would mean you would only be able to deal the extra damage to the target once.

Zaruthustran: I don't agree, doing damage once is doing damage once, no matter how many attacks there are. I think Nifft's post and the update to this power make it pretty clear. edit (I should clarify) - If you were to do damage from the curse to two targets on one attack then you are dealing curse damage twice on your turn. I don't believe that this is the intention of the power, and is reinforced by the errata. The Ranger does not get to apply their hunter's quarry damage to two different targets in a round (for example, by using twin strike or some other dual strike power on two adjacent foes).

 

[King-Panda]

I figured this would be a good place to ask this, as it pertains to the Ranger's Quarry ability, which is similar to the Warlock's Curse. The Ranger paragon path Battlefield Archer is able to designate multiple enemies as their quarry at a time (4, in my case). Since a ranger can normally only have 1 enemy quarried, the Hunter's Quarry class ability on page 104 doesn't mention if you get extra damage on each target or not.

Taken from PH page 104:

Hunter's Quarry
Once per round, you deal extra damage to your quarry. If you can make multiple attacks in a round, you decide which attack to apply the extra damage to after all the attacks are rolled.

The first part of sentence #1 leads me to believe you can only hit oneof your quarries with the extra damage, but by stating "your quarry" at the end, I can see it going the other way too. The second sentence makes me lean more towards just one target taking damage. Should I rule it as most-likely-RAI, and do it once? Or what might-possibly-be-RAW and do it against "my quarry" (four different targets)?

 

[King-Panda]

Bumping to see if I can get an answer, if not, I'll just make a new thread tonight.