Warlocks or Psions. Which matters more to you?

Which class is more important to you?

  • Warlock

    Votes: 108 62.4%
  • Psion

    Votes: 65 37.6%

  • Poll closed .

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Jhaelen said:
Actually it's magic that has too much overlap with psionics. Remove telekinesis, teleport and mind-affecting spells and make them the province of psionics, where they belong.

It's A LOT easier to distinguish typical psionic effects from spell effects than to clearly define what is divine magic and what arcane.

WotC really missed a big chance, imho, by not including psionics as a system (or power source) right from the start. Here's hope they get it right in 5E...

Huh?

Telekinesis - part of magic for a long time - wizard waves his wand and the whatevers start to dance around.

Teleport - portal traveling wizards have been part of fantasy for many years.

Mind effecting spells - This one you have the least leg to stand on. There are many stories of Merlin doing mind effecting stuff. Heck, look up the etymology of the word enchanter.
 

1188 said:
okay, personal opinion.
Psionics have always seemed to be the "magic" of sci-fi and I feel that's where they belong. If other people like them and have fun with them, great, but I don't.

Valdamar books by Mercedes Lackey. Certainly not the highest-quality series ever written but it is pure fantasy and powers that can only be describe as psionics (mind magic) are a central feature.

Fetching / Firestarting - Psychokinesis / Psychoportation
Mindspeach / Empathy - Telepathy
Foresight / Farsight - Clarsentience

The critical thing is that unlike true magic, their powers were almost entirely self powered with no possibility of outside energy. They were also easier to combine with other users (Convergence / Metaconcert).

The psionics = sci-fi is unfortunately emphasized by the names (often very stupid names - something doesn't become more interesting just by adding "meta" to its name, nor is it generally a correct use of meta; metaconcert being an excellent example).

I have long wished for something like:
Mindspeech - Telepathy
Mindtouch - Psychokinesis
Mindwalking - Psychoportive ((it always cracked me up that Alternity, the sci fi game, had more fantasy names for its psionics than D&D)
Soulforge - Metacreative
Lifeshaping - Psychometabolic
Farsensing - Clairsentience

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