Weapon Finesse

[elbandit]

One of my players brought an intreasting question to me. If you are using a quarterstaff and double attacking with it... can you use weapon finesse for the light weapon end?

I personally do not believe so... but the feat does mentions light weapons.

 

[Altamont Ravenard]

I believe you can, of course, you incur all the 2-weapon fighting penalties.

AR

 

[mikebr99]

I'd say no... as the quarterstaff is a double weapon, not a light weapon.


But... If the guy wanted to buy all the TWF feats... and weapon finesse just to lessen the off hand attacks a little due to his high DEX, I may be inclined to change my mind... YMMV


Why not just use 2 shortswords?


Mike

 

[CRGreathouse]

It would work for the off-hand. It's not a powerful style, regardless, so there's no reason to change it.

 

[Old Gumphrey]

I'd do everything I could to encourage a blazing staff wielder of spinny death in my game. I don't think it would break the game at all, especially since the bonus applies to your off-hand only (when someone fighting with 2 shortswords can apply to both hands and deal equal damage, and it costs just as much to have magical versions of each weapon). However, I believe that if you go *strictly* by the book it's not a legal move, as a double weapon's off hand side only counts as a light weapon for the purposes of two-weapon fighting.

 

[Kae'Yoss]

This calls for a "Bo Technique" Feat. It lets you apply dex to both ends.

 

[Darklone]

Guys interested in the quarterstaff should look for the Shillelagh spell and try to get their hands on the feats in the CW book.

 

[UltimaGabe]

Actually, weapon finesse would NOT apply to either end. A Quarterstaff is not a light weapon, and no part of it is a light weapon. However, when using both ends, you may use it as if fighting with a one-handed weapon and a light weapon for purposes of penalties. That's it. It's not really a light weapon, it just counts as one so the penalties are bearable.

 

[mikebr99]

Guys interested in the quarterstaff should look for the Shillelagh spell and try to get their hands on the feats in the CW book.

And the spikes spell.

Mike

 

[Ranger REG]

One of my players brought an intreasting question to me. If you are using a quarterstaff and double attacking with it... can you use weapon finesse for the light weapon end?

I personally do not believe so... but the feat does mentions light weapons.

The feat mention if you're using light weapons, not "fighting/attacking as if you're using a light weapon." Physically, the quartertaff is a two-handed weapon. It just so happen to have an extra feature, the same way certain polearms have an extra feature (does double damage when set against a charge).

So, regarding that feat, you can't apply it to the off-hand end of a quarterstaff. You'll have to create a "martial arts" type feat that would allow the quarterstaff wielder to use Dex for their attack rolls. I suggest Weapon Finesse be part of the prereq.

Either that or create a Bojutsu Artist PrC/AdC.