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We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

Another piece talking about the harassment of women in tabletop gaming has surfaced on the internet. At least one of the incidents related in that piece has been substantiated as being true, so I am willing to accept that there is more truth in that article. Whether gamers, or geeks in general, want to admit it or not, there are serious issues within our communities with how people act towards women, people of color, and the LGBTQI. We need to knock that off right now. Obviously, this is an opinion piece.

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Another piece talking about the harassment of women in tabletop gaming has surfaced on the internet. At least one of the incidents related in that piece has been substantiated as being true, so I am willing to accept that there is more truth in that article. Whether gamers, or geeks in general, want to admit it or not, there are serious issues within our communities with how people act towards women, people of color, and the LGBTQI. We need to knock that off right now. Obviously, this is an opinion piece.
Just as a warning, for those who might be bothered by certain sorts of content, some of the incidents that were relayed to me, the stories that were told, have jarring, uncomfortable occurrences in them. If mentions of rape and unsolicitated physical contact will bother you, you might want to skip the rest of this article. I know reading the emails and PMs from these women bothered me as they came in.

As much as what these women related bothered me, and obviously bothered them as the targets of the harassment, I felt that the fact that it was so uncomfortable was exactly the reason why this current piece needed to be written. We, as a group, need to start looking the people doing this harassment in the eye and telling them that we don’t think it is okay. We need to stop pushing these accounts into the shadows, under the rugs, and pretending that they do not exist. We need to make our communities into better places for everyone, and not just a bunch of men.

I put out a call over my various social media feeds (which was shared a lot), asking for women to share their experiences of harassment in tabletop gaming with me. Anonymity was offered to those who wanted it, and not surprisingly most respondents asked that their names be kept confidential. The reasons for them wanting to be kept anonymous were one of two. First, they were afraid of further harassment within their communities for calling out the bad behavior. They seen how women who tell men to stop get treated in small, closed communities and, for better or worse, they want to continue with their hobbies without additional harassment. The second reason was a bit scarier. Some of these women are professionals, working in tabletop gaming in a number of different capacities, who fear that publicly coming forward would negatively impact their careers within gaming.

I’ll just say that last one again, with emphasis: they were afraid that coming forward about their harassment, or the harassment that they had witnessed, would negatively impact their careers in tabletop gaming.

Because of these reasons, I will be keeping the identities of everyone who asked anonymous. Everyone who spoke with me identified themselves, I am just not identifying them.

One of the common threads through the experiences shared was rape. Most of these women had had characters raped during convention play, online games, or at events at stores. Sometimes the rapes were matter-of-factly introduced into play, others there was a titillating level of graphic detail to the assaults. One women talked about how a regular attendee at a local convention bragged of having a “rape kit” in his car for the women at the convention, and at one point he yelled at her to “find him women to sleep with.” She also talked about the organizers of the convention having a “men only camping retreat” and when she was on the board of the con the only way that she could attend was “nude and wearing a dog collar.” Another woman talked about the GM of her online game suddenly having her character knocked unconscious, taken away on a ship, and then graphically narrated raping her character. All of this occurred on voice chat while using a popular virtual tabletop site.

Another woman told me that her attempts at organizing a couple of women only games for a VTT online convention was met with such vehemence from male gamers that the games were pulled from the schedule of the convention.

People wonder why more and more people think that anti-harassment policies are needed at conventions. After all, even Gen Con has one:
Gen Con: The Best Four Days in Gaming! is dedicated to providing a harassment-free Event experience for everyone, regardless of gender, sexual orientation, disability, physical appearance, body size, race, religion, or affiliation. We do not tolerate harassment of convention participants in any form. Convention participants violating these rules may be sanctioned or expelled without refund at the discretion of show management.

And an Ethics policy:

All of the following constitute grounds for expulsion from the convention without refund:
  • Violating any federal, state, or local laws, facility rules or convention policies
  • Failure to comply with the instructions of Gen Con Event Staff or security personnel
  • Using anything in a threatening or destructive manner against person or property
  • Endangering the safety of oneself or others
  • Threatening, stealing, cheating or harassing others
  • Failure to conduct oneself in a mature manner

The creators of the 13th Age RPG have anti-harassment policies for their organized play because “Nobody shows up for a game with the goal of feeling uncomfortable or unsafe, and sorry that they came. But organized play brings together many different types of people with different expectations and approaches to play. An anti-harassment policy sets ground rules that everyone can recognize and follow, resulting in better games and more fun.” In the policy they outline harassment as “Everyone has the right to a space that is safe from any type of harassment: physical, verbal, emotional, or sexual.”

Honestly, considering the experiences that have been related to me, these sorts of policies should be commonplace for conventions and organized play. I have heard that Paizo is currently drafting an anti-harassment policy for their organized play, and Ad Astra Games has one in place already.

These are some of the more overt things that women have to deal with in their tabletop gaming experiences, and doesn’t go into the more “casual” or systemic harassment and sexism that women deal with at conventions, in online play and at game stores. One of the women talked about women being a subclass in society, and it being more so in gaming communities. “It sucks for a female gamer, going into a store and having that reaction.”

Men are openly commenting on women’s body parts in a sexual manner. Sexual content is added to games because “that’s the kind of stuff that women like.” Crude sexual references and jokes are made.

I’m not saying that there is no place for sexual, or adult themes, in gaming. Just the opposite, in fact. In my personal groups I game with grownups, and we play games that can have adult material in them. We have, however, agreed that content like that is okay in advance, and most of the time we agree that players’ agency over their characters should not be railroaded by the story of the game, or the actions of the GM. There is a huge difference between making awkward sexual comments out of the blue, because you are hoping it will interest a woman gamer, and making awkward sexual comments that people expect in their game. This goes doubly so for games in public spaces, like conventions or stores.

And just because it is okay with your wife, girlfriend or the woman in your gaming group at home, that doesn’t mean that it is okay with all women. If it makes someone at the table uncomfortable, or makes them feel like they are being harassed, just don’t do it, or apologize for having done it.

And, of course, none of them are safe from accusations of being a “fake geek girl,” or being in the store to get something for their husband or boyfriend. Apparently the idea that a woman would want to buy her own dice or miniatures or rule books is alien to some gamers.

As Jon Peterson, author of Playing at the World, points out in an online essay, there have always been gender problems in tabletop gaming. But he also points out that women have been interested in tabletop gaming for a long time. But, just because something has “always been that way,” it does not mean that it has to stay that way. Even in the 1970s TSR Games employees were taken to task by fandom, and female designers, to be more respectful of women gamers and to stop using phrases like “ladygamers.” Sadly, these attitudes that were considered to be outdated back then are still being perpetuated now…in some cases by some of the same people.

My first AD&D group, back in 1979, had a woman for the GM, and about half of the group were women. Most of my groups since then have had women involved in them. We need to be better, as a community, about these things. We need to speak out when we see women being harassed, online or in person, and we need to tell the people who think that doing this is okay that it isn’t. We need to be active in making the change that creates better communities where we don’t have to worry about our friends being harassed because of their gender, or their sexual preferences, or their ethnicity. We have to convince conventions and organized play societies that having anti-harassment policies is a good thing, and enforcing them so that everyone feels welcomed and accepted is a better thing.

Guys, we have to remember that this isn’t about us. This isn’t about our perceptions of what is happening at conventions, during organized play events and in online games. We sit back, listen and ask what we need to do, rather than try to make the discussion about how it “isn’t all men.” We already know that. We need to not take the focus away from what needs to be done.

There are never going to be completely safe spaces, in gaming or outside of it. However, we can make better places where no one has to worry about their body parts being part of the table talk, or their characters being sexually violated. It is the 21st century, and we should be better about this than we are. We need to stop being quiet, stop facilitating harassment, and we need to start making better spaces for ourselves and our fellow gamers. A group, like nerds, that talk so much about being harassed in their youth for being different should really be more sensitive about harassing others. We can, as a group, be better about this, and we need to do it.
 

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Dannager

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The political aspect is over HOW to stop it and whether or not "The accusation is the evidence".

NO.

Full stop.

This isn't about "The accusation is the evidence," because this isn't about evidence at all, and you need to stop acting like it is. Evidence is used to pass judgment, and no one is in a position to pass judgment, here. This is about resolving an immediate problem. The evidence isn't important, judging whether something actually occurred or not isn't important, determining whether an incident met an arbitrary standard of "harassment" isn't important. Stop acting like that's what we're talking about.

Now for the really cynical part. Let's say you have a strong opinion on a controversial subject. Pick one, it doesn't matter. Someone doesn't like that, and so doesn't like you. In fact, you're the kind of person she wants to see out of the hobby. Should she be able to have an easy way by simply lying about harassment in order to have you removed? For that matter, perhaps she doesn't even have to lie; she can say that simply being around you makes her uncomfortable. People get passionate about their causes.

To be clear, you actually think it's feasible to imagine that someone might one day use this framework to orchestrate a series of false accusations and frame jobs against you for the ultimate purpose of driving you from the hobby entirely, and that it might actually succeed? Is this the world that you feel you live in? This is real life. Comical petty RPG supervillains don't actually exist and aren't out to get you. If it becomes clear that someone is deliberately lying about your actions and words, there are plenty of things you can do to address that, and they don't require that you remain at any given gaming event.
 

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Fergurg

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It's actually kind of horrifying that you see articles like this discussing individuals who have experienced awful things, and your mind immediately leaps to, "They're trying to control us!" That says an incredible amount about the sort of person you are and how you view the world around you. No one is trying to control you. No one is trying to shame you. All that anyone is trying to do is to ask you to help improve things, and your response is to essentially give them the middle finger?

When people write articles like this asking you to exert peer pressure to make the community more welcoming and less hostile, antagonistic, cynical, and paranoid, they mean doing exactly what I'm about to do right now to you: Please, stop acting in the way you are acting. It is harmful, it threatens to make things worse, and it's the kind of behavior that drags the entire community down. This isn't me trying to control you, or to control your actions. It's me asking you to step the hell up.



No one here believes in "the totalitarian notion of guilty until proven innocent". That's a mischaracterization of the people arguing with you, and if you're intellectually honest that will be the last we hear of it from you. We aren't a court of law. We aren't in a position to punish anyone. We aren't in a position to pass judgment. We aren't in a position to investigate anything to a point of reasonable certainty. This isn't about deciding guilt, this isn't about proving innocence. This is about dealing with an immediate problem in a mature way. As others have pointed out, this is how most law enforcement already operates in the moment. It is accepted as a best practice, and it's absurd that you would object to it.

I want to hear you say, "I understand your position now, and I won't deliberately mischaracterize you in the future."

Actually, the view is WORSE that "guilty until proven innocent". It is simply unconcerned with whether or not the person is guilty. The accused is simply expelled from the event (although some who support this would at least be willing to give a refund to the accused). Are you seriously suggesting that expelling someone from an event is not a punitive action?
 

Dannyalcatraz

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Now for the really cynical part. Let's say you have a strong opinion on a controversial subject. Pick one, it doesn't matter. Someone doesn't like that, and so doesn't like you. In fact, you're the kind of person she wants to see out of the hobby. Should she be able to have an easy way by simply lying about harassment in order to have you removed? For that matter, perhaps she doesn't even have to lie; she can say that simply being around you makes her uncomfortable. People get passionate about their causes.

See slander, libel and intentional infliction of emotional distress laws. A person who is proven to be spreading damaging falsehoods can face some nasty repercussions.

Of course, there are again the interacting issues of proof, societal paranoia, or being a member of a relatively disfavored minority.
 

Fergurg

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NO.

Full stop.

This isn't about "The accusation is the evidence," because this isn't about evidence at all, and you need to stop acting like it is. Evidence is used to pass judgment, and no one is in a position to pass judgment, here. This is about resolving an immediate problem. The evidence isn't important, judging whether something actually occurred or not isn't important, determining whether an incident met an arbitrary standard of "harassment" isn't important. Stop acting like that's what we're talking about.



To be clear, you actually think it's feasible to imagine that someone might one day use this framework to orchestrate a series of false accusations and frame jobs against you for the ultimate purpose of driving you from the hobby entirely, and that it might actually succeed? Is this the world that you feel you live in? This is real life. Comical petty RPG supervillains don't actually exist and aren't out to get you. If it becomes clear that someone is deliberately lying about your actions and words, there are plenty of things you can do to address that, and they don't require that you remain at any given gaming event.

3 words to prove that you are very wrong: Duke Lacrosse Team.
 

Dannager

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Actually, the view is WORSE that "guilty until proven innocent".

No, it isn't. You have to take an incredibly warped view of reality to arrive at that belief.

It is simply unconcerned with whether or not the person is guilty.

That's exactly right. No one is being punished, so arriving at a determination of guilt is unimportant. It's about defusing the situation, that's all.

The accused is simply expelled from the event (although some who support this would at least be willing to give a refund to the accused). Are you seriously suggesting that expelling someone from an event is not a punitive action?

Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. The accused may feel punished, but that isn't why the action was taken. The action was taken to resolve the problem quickly and to allow the event to continue with the least disruption possible. And, if the accused does feel punished, hopefully they will eventually take the requisite thirty seconds to reflect on what happened and to realize that being removed from the event really isn't that big of a deal, that if it was a misunderstanding he will have plenty of opportunities to address that, and that he's free to get on with his life.
 

Libramarian

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Lots of cons have had zero tolerance policies for years now - has that ever actually happened? Is there any evidence that what you fear is real and not just a bogeyman?

Have they? Literally they will throw anyone out no questions asked if they're accused of harassment?

If so, why was this presented as an innovative idea?
 

Dannager

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3 words to prove that you are very wrong: Duke Lacrosse Team.

So, do you not understand the Duke lacrosse case? Or are you deliberately mischaracterizing it to try and support your personal narrative of choice? Because that case really, really doesn't say the things you want it to say.
 

Dannager

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Have they? Literally they will throw anyone out no questions asked if they're accused of harassment?

A number of cons have this policy on paper. Every PAX convention, for example, has a zero-tolerance harassment policy. Being reported for harassment triggers a remediation process which includes removal, revocation of badge, and permaban from future PAX events.

In reality, of course, there is some room for discretion, but the policy is there and the shows have continued to operate just fine.
 

Fergurg

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So, do you not understand the Duke lacrosse case? Or are you deliberately mischaracterizing it to try and support your personal narrative of choice? Because that case really, really doesn't say the things you want it to say.

Actually, I do understand the case. 4 people were falsely accused of rape. The nation went nuts over it. Even after it proven that the 4 did not rape the dancer who accused them (and in fact, one of them wasn't even there), people still wanted their blood. A poll taken by ABC News showed that the majority of black students wanted them to be punished even if they were innocent.
 

Dannyalcatraz

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3 words to prove that you are very wrong: Duke Lacrosse Team.

No question that false accusations are terrible. Lives get ruined, and not just those of the accused.

Tawana Brawley made similar accusations. Richard Jewel was mistakenly thought to be a terrorist. People end up in prison, including death row. Some get lynched. But in most such cases, those falsities get revealed, and their perpetrators are held accountable.

No system is perfect.
 

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