What do/don't you like about mecha

[hobgoblin]

funny that people complain about the mecha as armor thingy.
go get d20 future tech. it have rules for going mechwarrior/battletech rather then bubblegum crisis

 

[Pbartender]

funny that people complain about the mecha as armor thingy.
go get d20 future tech. it have rules for going mechwarrior/battletech rather then bubblegum crisis

I was talking about Mechwarrior and Battletech... never heard of Bubblegum Crisis.


Go read Hammer's Slammers by David Drake.

 

[hobgoblin]

ok, badly worded post. but what i was trying to say is that d20 future tech (that follow up soft cover that wotc released) have rules for turning the d20 future mecha into battletech style walking tanks.

 

[(Psi)SeveredHead]

ok, badly worded post. but what i was trying to say is that d20 future tech (that follow up soft cover that wotc released) have rules for turning the d20 future mecha into battletech style walking tanks.

Not because of the mecha rules, but I sold my copy of D20 Future. I'm not buying Future Tech. I was burned by Future and don't want anything more to do with that line. Other than mutations, a couple of templates, the Urban Tracking feat and spaceship combat there's really nothing I want from it, and it's all in the MSRD anyway.

 

[Pbartender]

ok, badly worded post. but what i was trying to say is that d20 future tech (that follow up soft cover that wotc released) have rules for turning the d20 future mecha into battletech style walking tanks.

But that's the point we're trying to make... Why make a walking tank with complicated, vulnerable leg joints and balancing systems, when you make a compact, reliable hovertank just as easily.

 

[(Psi)SeveredHead]

Mecha-tank stats here: http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=635237

M1A1 Abrams Main Battle Tank
PL6 Huge Vehicle Mecha
Move: 100' (45mph all out)
240HP (40 base HP plus 200 Bonus HP)
Hardness 15 (Duralloy Superstructure)
Defense: 10 base, -2 size, +8 equipment (Duralloy Armor) = 16
Class III Sensor system
MkV Oracle Targeting System
1 120mm smoothbore cannon
1 .50 cal. Machine gun
2 7.62mm machine guns
9 extra equipment slots (1 helmet, 1 visor, 1 shoulders, 1 back, 1 torso, 1 left arm, 1 right arm, 1 belt, and 1 treads)
2 hand replacements

Equipment locations.
Helmet: 2 slot. Class III Sensor system and .50.cal. Machine gun
Visor: 2 slots. MkV Oracle Targeting System and 3rd gunner copilot cockpit slot
Back: 2 slots. Commander passenger cockpit slots (2 of 2)
Left arm: 2 slots. 120mm ammo
Left hand: 1 slot. Hand replacement: 2 slots. 120mm smoothbore cannon
Right arm: 2 slots. Speed enhancers x2
Right hand: 1 slot. Hand replacement: 2 slots. 2 fire-linked 7.62mm Machine guns
Shoulders: 2 slots. Loader passenger cockpit slots (2 of 2)
Torso: 2 slots. Gunner copilot cockpit slots (2 of 3)
Belt: 2 slots. Driver Pilot's cockpit slots (2 of 2)
Treads: 3 slots. Speed enhancers x3

Obviously you would re-name the slots, though I would increase the hardness to 25 if it were up to me.

 

[Aussiegamer]

But that's the point we're trying to make... Why make a walking tank with complicated, vulnerable leg joints and balancing systems, when you make a compact, reliable hovertank just as easily.

because they look cool

But yes reality wise the lack of soft spots for the hover tank works better.

 

[hobgoblin]

Not because of the mecha rules, but I sold my copy of D20 Future. I'm not buying Future Tech. I was burned by Future and don't want anything more to do with that line. Other than mutations, a couple of templates, the Urban Tracking feat and spaceship combat there's really nothing I want from it, and it's all in the MSRD anyway.

well, sorry for trying to inform some people on this thread: "hey, they did come out with rules for mecha as walking tanks. it just wasnt in d20 future". it seemed to be one of the big issues people had with the mecha rules from d20 future...

 

[Pbartender]

because they look cool

Exactly.

And honestly, that's their only real advantage over conventional military equipment.

THEY'RE GIANT FRIGGAN ROBOTS !!!!!11!!!1!

 

[JohnSnow]

And honestly, that's their only real advantage over conventional military equipment.

THEY'RE GIANT FRIGGAN ROBOTS !!!!!11!!!1

Which makes Macross mecha the only ones that make sense.

I mean seriously...

"Why would anyone make a 50 foot tall walking mecha?"

"Umm...because the aliens we're going to have to fight are 50 feet tall? And if we can't fight them person to person, we are SOO screwed."

"Oh. Gotcha. Well, THAT makes sense."