What do you think of this option for tumbling?

[KnowTheToe]

Tumble: DC for tumbling past someone is 15 + 1 for each 2 lvls (humanoids) or CRs (monsters)
Tumbling past a commoner DC 15
Tumbling past a 3rd lvl warrior or fighter DC 16
Tumbling past a Dire Tiger DC 19
If the tumble roll fails the tumbler takes an AoO, the tumbler makes a fort save DC 10+ damage. If the tumbler makes the save he moves to his intended position, if not he stays in the square where he took the hit. In cases when the tumbler is trying to tumble thru someone the DC is 25 + 1 for each 2 lvl/CR and the tumbler goes to the space before his opponent.

This seems to be fair and makes tougher opponents tougher to tumble past. The DCs will not climb too high and inorder for a rogue to tumble past high level opponents, the rogue will have to keep feeding his tumble skill with a point every couple levels. Tumbling is a grewat concept, but it should not be something you max out at third level and almost never have to worry about it again.

What do you think?

 

[Clint]

I like the concept, but why not use stats that are already there, instead of a new equation?

This is what we've been using in my campaign, and it's been working well:

Tumble opposed by Reflex save to tumble through someone's threatened area. To tumble through someone's square, it's Tumble opposed by Reflex save +10.

(This idea was made by someone on these boards, I confess that I don't remember who.)

 

[Bonedagger]

Tumble: DC for tumbling past someone is 15 + 1 for each 2 lvls (humanoids) or CRs (monsters)

What do you think?

I think it should be HD instead of CR for monsters.

 

[hong]

Re: Re: What do you think of this option for tumbling?

I think it should be HD instead of CR for monsters.

Hmm... If it's going to be along those lines, perhaps the DC should be 10 + 1/2 HD + Dex bonus, or something like that. This is the basic formula used for save DCs for spell-like abilities, breath weapons, poison, etc.

 

[Romotre]

I think the reflex save is a song and silence varient. however, the fort save is a nice idea. leave it as is (with s&s varient) and add the fort save. makes sense. if you are flipping and rolling and someone hits you with a warhammer, you might fall down. i know i would. but then again i might also be dead. not to mention i can't tumble.