What do you want? (Forked Thread: When did I stop being WotC's target audience?)

Conan has definitely been eclipsed, but I'm not sure Cloud did it.

Who's as archetypal in modern fantasy as Conan used to be? Nobody I can think of.
 

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In short, if the tone of the game has changed since it was first published, it is because contemporary notions of fantasy have changed. Harry Potter has replaced Merlin. The movie version of LOTR is better known than the books. Li Mu Bai has ousted Kwai Chang Caine. Cloud has eclipsed Conan.

In shorter, man is mortal and therefore each generation is less glorious than the last. :(

Someday things will be so bad that they'll even make a TV show about the superfluous lives of the three airheaded 'girlfriends' of a geriatric pornographer. Then it will be the End Times.
 

Without the asian, there is no Katana, and all must bow before the Katana.

But many a katana bowed before the bow. ;)

Ok, confession time:

I want to be able to run a D&D campaign from 1st to whatever the maximum level is, or play a character to maximum level. I've never been able to do either of those in 17+ years of gaming :(

How exactly has the game impeded your ability to do this, and what would help you do this from D&D?
 
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Conan has definitely been eclipsed, but I'm not sure Cloud did it.

Who's as archetypal in modern fantasy as Conan used to be? Nobody I can think of.

I would perhaps argue that Aragorn, Gimli, or Legolas from the LotR movies have eclipsed Conan in the minds of many modern fantasy fans. I know they have in my own mind. Conan is all well and good, but it's hard to separate the Governator from the image.
 


How exactly has the game impeded your ability to do this, and what would help you do this from D&D?

I was answering this part of the question: "What have you wanted from D&D, that has never seemed to happen yet...?"

Unfortunately, I think the problem has less to do with the particulars of a D&D edition and more with the nature of RPGs as a hobby. To play a long-running campaign is a commitment that not many people can make. I honestly don't think that there is anything you can do to D&D to change this without eliminating its RPG identity. Best I can do is learn to enjoy the journey and not the destination.
 

In shorter, man is mortal and therefore each generation is less glorious than the last. :(

Someday things will be so bad that they'll even make a TV show about the superfluous lives of the three airheaded 'girlfriends' of a geriatric pornographer. Then it will be the End Times.

I like driving downhill!

[An experience point for the guy who remembers who said that].
 

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