What do you want to see in the final issue of Dragon?

DM-Rocco said:
God, I can't remember what issue it was, but it was somewhere between #90-#110. They had a Dragon. This Dragon would put anything, in fact everything in one encounter from all past Dungeon magazines to shame. I don't remember his name, never been good with names, but he was bigger that a world, in fact, he was a world eater. He was designed to end monty haul campiagns by swallowing the world whole.

It was really a great April fool day article. Under treasure, it said something like "whole worlds reside in its bowels"

If you want a great laugh, it was an April Issue back in the previosly mentioned dragons.


That would be the Quasar Dragon. IIRC it was attracted to the amount of magic that was on a world. I do remember the article stating that you could only avoid the dragon swallowing your world was to throw every single magic item on the planet into a Sphere of Annihilation (and you only had 24 hours to do so) which would leave your world only a 1% chance of the dragon still not swallowing it. Ah, those were the days.
 

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DM-Rocco said:
No, I will not make any apologies for my statements. If you want to consider Animie fantasy by your standards, then you go right ahead.

However, 99% of the D&D fans that played before the year 2000 grew up with Larry Elmore defining the face of fantasy and D&D and you can't take that away from him. He single handedly set the tone and style for the Dragonlance world and shaped how we look at D&D from his Dragon covers. Dragons look the way they do today because of him and he is far from "cartoony". Sure he has things like Snarf, but you can't really find another artist that draws humans in realistic proportions and photo like quality anymore. Not like he does. Cartoony? Are you even looking at the same thing?

Animie is not D&D. Animie may have done fantasy films and may have been used in low end role-playing aids, but it is not what most people think of when they think of D&D or fantasy. Animie belongs in a Japanize film festival, not in a Dragon or Dungeon magazine. I like animie in movies, but if they, say, make the Dragonlance movie done in an Animie style, that will suck balls because that is not D&D fantasy and not the Dragonlance style.

You can say what you want, but Animie has no place in D&D fantasy.

I'm so glad you are here to tell the rest of us what we like.
 

DM-Rocco said:
No, I will not make any apologies for my statements. If you want to consider Animie fantasy by your standards, then you go right ahead.

However, 99% of the D&D fans that played before the year 2000 grew up with Larry Elmore defining the face of fantasy and D&D and you can't take that away from him. He single handedly set the tone and style for the Dragonlance world and shaped how we look at D&D from his Dragon covers. Dragons look the way they do today because of him and he is far from "cartoony". Sure he has things like Snarf, but you can't really find another artist that draws humans in realistic proportions and photo like quality anymore. Not like he does. Cartoony? Are you even looking at the same thing?

Animie is not D&D. Animie may have done fantasy films and may have been used in low end role-playing aids, but it is not what most people think of when they think of D&D or fantasy. Animie belongs in a Japanize film festival, not in a Dragon or Dungeon magazine. I like animie in movies, but if they, say, make the Dragonlance movie done in an Animie style, that will suck balls because that is not D&D fantasy and not the Dragonlance style.

You can say what you want, but Animie has no place in D&D fantasy.

First, I'm trying to find anywhere in my post where I asked you to apologize for your statements. You can say whatever you want about anime and how much you dont like it, but when you make broad statements like the one you made that people dont agree with, expect a response.

Second, READ MY POST. I, personally dont mind Elmore. What I said was that there are those that would consider his style to cartoony compared to Frazetta and Vellejo. So the same way that you thumb your nose at anime style fantasy art, there are people who grew up with those Frazetta and Vellejo art as their template of what fantasy is. Obviously there's room for both, except in your world where you define for everyone else what is and isnt D&D fantasy art. But hey, good luck with that.

Anime used in "low-end role-playing game aids".....

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Have you picked up an issue of DUNGEON lately? I mean isnt this the same magazine that youre trying to save? Last time I checked UDON Studios have been doing quite a bit of art for that magazine and Chris Stevens art is pretty anime looking to me...

I mean these are some the same guys who work on the Street Fighter line of comics which last time checked looked hella anime/manga to me. But hey that would mean that you'd have to trash DUNGEON as well so I guess that you'll turn a blind eye, right?
 

rgard said:
I found it...issue 359.

In that case, I'd like to see "Next Month in Dragon #360".

Yes, that's what I'd like to see - a final issue that simply ignores that it is the final issue, like the final episode of Farscape (prior to the Peacekeeper Wars miniseries) that ended with the "To Be Continued" tag.
 

i don't see this as possible

This is about as probable as Mr. Gygax writing an article,

How about you track down Mr. Trampier (sp?) and give us a final

WORMY

I will buy two copies if you do.

RK
 


Warlord Ralts said:
I'd like to see stats for the Final Fantasy characters and the characters from Dragon Ball Z.

Now yer talkin'!

Why don't we get some stats for real-life actors and RPG designers too? It could just be a magazine with endless stats and game mechanics! Wow! That would sell at least 3 copies!

I think i vote for a picture of the entire WotC staff dressed up in their 'villain' gear complete with pencil thin handlebar mustaches, twirling them and kicking puppies.
 

Eric Anondson said:
Oh! A "what's been happening" with Waldorf. I know Greyhawk's The Adventure Begins dropped some tidbit on him. But since Waldorf came to glory in the pages of Dragon it would be perfect for Dragon to have an update on him in those pages.

I hear Waldorf is the Critical Threat in the last issue of Dungeon. :eek:
 

Shadowdancer said:
Two words: Dixie topless.

Only topless? Think bigger, my friend. :lol:


In any event, what I'd like to see? One last, triumphant, epic adventure in the chronicles of Haldemar of Haaken and the Princess Ark crew. Or at least just one more showing of them. :)
 


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