I don't know if we can call it inflation or deflation. 5e uses a linear formula, while the AD&Ds went up jagged-exponentially (with the whole 18/## thing in the midst making hash of any kind of formula). For that matter, oD&D and the basic/classic line had a flat formula -- High Strength did not make you better at lifting or carrying things, just more quickly advancing as an iconically mighty character archetype.Talk about ability score inflation. The 2e Players Handbook lists 1,130lbs Maximum PRESS as a Str 23. So if Mr. Bjornsson can get that over his head and hold it, he'd have a 23...
Definitely. This system really works best for the middle of the range, not the extreme end. I think the MM should have made mention that, over a certain point, the attributes on Monsters are kept within a range so as not to make their saves and ability checks violate the bounded accuracy design premise.I very much appreciate the simplicity of the rules of 5E D&D, which work fine for all creatures that have STR scores typically between 5-20.
If you want to extrapolate these rules to the almost inhuman achievements of the OP, or to huge/gargantuan monsters with STR scores well above 20, we need to acknowledge that some kind of exponential function would probably fit better (e.g. lifting capacity is 0.3*STR^3).
But boy I'm happy we don't need to bring out the calculators in the game, so this is definitely NOT advice for WotC to change the system. Please keep it simple with easy linear relations! Half of our group of friends already struggle to add up 4d6!
That may have been the intent, but you kinda threw down the gauntlet with calling a high-powered monster in everyone's power-fantasy elfgame 'pathetic.' That, well and above treating as attempted realism what is recognized as game-facilitating play abstractions kinda makes it seem that regardless of you intending the latter, the thread's communicated 'point' really is the former.The point of the thread wasn't really to make fun of the game mechanics (too easy of a target, IMO). I wanted it to be an athletics/fitness appreciation thread.
It was predictable.