What Empowered value gets multiplied?

[Nail]

Yup. And the text in the feat about "half again as much healing" is pretty telling.

 

[Marshall]

The +1 per caster level is really no different than the 1d6 per caster level that sorcerers get for shocking grasp.

Ahh, but there's the rub. +1/CL is a fixed benefit, Empower does nothing for it. No "random variable", no dice. <pun intended>

The cleric can maxes out at +5, the sorcerer maxes out at 5d6, both are level dependent.

Empower wouldn't do jack for the +1/CL, but it will multiply the 1d6 * 1.5. Carrying that further, the d4+1 in MM is all part of the same random variable. Wheras the d8 + CL in CLW is a random variable + a fixed value.

 

[Hypersmurf]

Wheras the d8 + CL in CLW is a random variable + a fixed value.

The variable numeric effect is 'the amount of damage healed'.

What's the amount of damage healed? 1d8 + CL.

What's Empowered? The variable numeric effect. Which is 1d8 + CL.

-Hyp.

 

[rkanodia]

Hypersmurf, Nail, Patryn, and others, I'm sorry, but you clearly just don't get it. Obviously, the correct usage of Empower Spell is the underpowered, more complicated one, which relies on a dubious interpretation of the feat's mechanical description and clearly conflicts its plain-English description and the given example.

 

[Patryn of Elvenshae]

Hypersmurf, Nail, Patryn, and others, I'm sorry, but you clearly just don't get it. Obviously, the correct usage of Empower Spell is the underpowered, more complicated one, which relies on a dubious interpretation of the feat's mechanical description and clearly conflicts its plain-English description and the given example.

Woe is me, I am a poor ruleslawyer...

 

[Nyarlathotep]

Off Topic:
I'm curious to hear Hypersmurf's theory on ally's in regard to the Bless spell...

On Topic:

no thoughts on this, as none of my players have ever taken a metamagic feat. Some great rules interpretations here though!

 

[Hypersmurf]

Off Topic:
I'm curious to hear Hypersmurf's theory on ally's in regard to the Bless spell...

Well, the problem is that it's not actually defined anywhere what constitutes an 'ally' or an 'enemy'...

-Hyp.

 

[hong]

Marshall, come on back to rgfd and leave the nice EN Wurlders alone.