D&D 5E What, if anything, bothers you about certain casters/spells at your table?

[leozg]

Natural language is all good, but there are times when more "technical" approaches are clearer.

Maybe, just for curiosity, you should read 4e books. No need to learn the system, to play or even to create a character, just to see a different approach on how rules were writen. The 4e, besides all controversy, did a great job on the way the system mechanics were writen to avoid misinterpretation. Looks like written by engineers.

 

[Minigiant]

Yeah, cure wounds has changed schools a few times LOL!

It is do to the nebulous and unexplained nature of it and many spells.

If it is emitting rejuvenating positive healing energy, it's Evocations.

It it is summoning the rejuvenating positive healing energy from a god or other plane, it is Conjuration.

If it is emitting rejuvenating anti-death energy, it is Necromancy.

If it is creating a positive shield around your last 1 HP, it is Abjuration.

If it is knitting closed minor cuts and bruises, it is Transmutation.

If it is giving you a glimpse of a future fatal event, it is Divination.

etc. it can any school.

Cure Wounds and Healing Word both being Evocations means they are created jolts of healing divine or primal energy.

But why is every jolt of created energy Evocations except necrotic, psychic, and sometimes acid and poison.

It should be consistent

• acid- Conjuration (acid is not energy)
• cold- Evocation (unless conjured)
• fire- Evocation (unless conjured)
• force- Evocations (unless conjured)
• lightning- Evocation (unless conjured)
• necrotic- Necromancy
• poison- Conjuration (poison is not energy)
• psychic- Enchantment
• radiant- Evocation (unless conjured)
• thunder- Transmutation (it is giving someone a vibrating state without heat)

Spells that have variable damage should almost all be Conjurations from other planes or Transmutation of existing energy or matter.

 

[James Gasik]

I would argue Cold should be Transmutation. Despite D&D's claims to contrary, Cold is not energy.

 

[Stalker0]

Is that it? The design intent of WotC 5e is to encourage diversity and to show contrition for past and present branded products that didn't do so to current standards? There's a lot more to D&D than it's stance on diversity (as if any company would take a different public stance on this issue in our present era). Or is this the only thing that matters to game design enough to talk about it?

Well if you read the article it talks specifically about the shift from “protecting” the game from the dm to “promoting” the dm as a centerpiece of the game. The diversity notes are there but hardly the meat

 

[Micah Sweet]

Well if you read the article it talks specifically about the shift from “protecting” the game from the dm to “promoting” the dm as a centerpiece of the game. The diversity notes are there but hardly the meat

I disagree. What's the title of the article? Pretty good indicator of what they want you to focus on, which sadly is more evidence of my original theory that the design goal of 5e was, "make a lot if money". To expand on that, they are clearly making an effort here to show how much they care about an issue that is very front and center in the public eye nowadays (which is not to say they don't care about it otherwise, to shut down that counter-argument).

 

[mellored]

They are too samey.

If players played tipplets, and one was a wizard, one a sorcerer, and one a bard, you could go several session before you figured out who was who.

Make sorcerer use spell points, and bards can learn any spell but only get to level 6 spells, or something.

 

[Stalker0]

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[Stalker0]

I disagree. What's the title of the article? Pretty good indicator of what they want you to focus on, which sadly is more evidence of my original theory that the design goal of 5e was, "make a lot if money". To expand on that, they are clearly making an effort here to show how much they care about an issue that is very front and center in the public eye nowadays (which is not to say they don't care about it otherwise, to shut down that counter-argument).

never judge a book by its cover, nor an article by its title
—Charlie Chaplin

 

[Micah Sweet]

never judge a book by its cover, nor an article by its title
—Charlie Chaplin

You can judge a book by its cover if you use the metric, "what do the publishers want us to think this is about?"

And the article does talk quite a bit about diversity, so I wouldn't say it isn't the "meat".

 

[Hussar]

You can judge a book by its cover if you use the metric, "what do the publishers want us to think this is about?"

And the article does talk quite a bit about diversity, so I wouldn't say it isn't the "meat".

Let's be honest here @Micah Sweet - WotC could include 20 dollar bills inside the cover of every PHB and you'd claim they folded them wrong.