What is the name of the world for these settings?
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Insight
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I believe at least three of your four are intended as their own settings. I know for certain that Blackmoor is a setting (you can ask the real old-timers about it) and I'm pretty sure it originally came out about the same time as Greyhawk. I know Council of Wyrms came out during 2nd ed and I'm not 100% sure about Jakandor.
Ghostwalk is the exception, intended to add onto an existing setting.
Ghostwalk is the exception, intended to add onto an existing setting.
crazy_monkey1956
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Being a die hard fan of Council of Wyrms, I'm about 99% positive the planet upon which the Io's Blood Isles existed didn't have a name.
Vyvyan Basterd
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Blackmoor is an area in a campaign world, much like Greyhawk is a part of Oerth. I don't know the original intent of what world Blackmoor was part of, but it was incorporated officially as the Land of Black Ice on Oerth and as an area of Mystara. Both had aspects of the original setting I believe, but were different in implementation. I think the Mystara version held truer to the original.
Jan van Leyden
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Jakandor was situated on an island you could have placed in any world, but...
The idea of this three-product-line was to create an isolated setting and facilitate campaigns in this setting without any thought of integration with any other stuff. You had to different people/factions on this island which had a perpetual conflict going on. One book concentrated on a barbarian people while the second one described a necromancer society. PCs would belong to one of the two peoples and their adventures would revolve around this central conflict. So you might run two campaigns on Jakandor with one conflict as topic, taking different sides. The third book in the series actually offered adventures one could play belonging to each side of the war.
The interesting aspect, at least for me, was the very strong focus, much stronger than in your usual published world.
The idea of this three-product-line was to create an isolated setting and facilitate campaigns in this setting without any thought of integration with any other stuff. You had to different people/factions on this island which had a perpetual conflict going on. One book concentrated on a barbarian people while the second one described a necromancer society. PCs would belong to one of the two peoples and their adventures would revolve around this central conflict. So you might run two campaigns on Jakandor with one conflict as topic, taking different sides. The third book in the series actually offered adventures one could play belonging to each side of the war.
The interesting aspect, at least for me, was the very strong focus, much stronger than in your usual published world.
Wik
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Yeah, Blackmoor is from Greyhawk, and is said to be "THE" first D&D campaign. The other three were specifically designed to be dropped into any campaign setting.
Jakandor was a large island, in the middle of a great ocean. Ditto for the Blood Isles in Council of Wyrms (fun setting! Came very close to buying a used boxed set of it yesterday!). Never read Ghostwalk, but if memory serves, it was set in a city that could be dropped anywhere.
Mark
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airwalkrr
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No, Blackmoor was the name of Dave Arneson's campaign and Greyhawk was the name of Gary Gygax's campaign. TSR decided to pay homage to Arneson by creating a place called Blackmoor on the map of the Flanaess, but that did not make Blackmoor a part of Greyhawk.
Also, Dave Arneson released a Blackmoor campaign setting for 3.5. I haven't seen it around much and never bought it, but perhaps he expounded upon it there. The setting was said to have his personal touch and supposedly be very true to his original D&D campaign.
Also, Dave Arneson released a Blackmoor campaign setting for 3.5. I haven't seen it around much and never bought it, but perhaps he expounded upon it there. The setting was said to have his personal touch and supposedly be very true to his original D&D campaign.
This'll be a bit repetitive with above posts, but . . .
Blackmoor is its own campaign setting, although as mentioned it is a region within a larger world (but most campaign settings are). It was NOT incorporated into Greyhawk, but a region of Greyhawk was named Blackmoor. It WAS incorporated into Mystara, but not so much as a separate region but rather as an important region in Mystara's distant past. It was one of the original D&D campaign settings and was published second only to Greyhawk itself. The campaign's creator, Dave Arneson, who also co-created D&D, did retain some/all (not sure) of the rights and authorized a third-party d20 version of the setting a few years back. Did Blackmoor have a special name for the planet it was set on? I don't think so, but I'm not sure . . .
Council of Wyrms was NOT a fully independent campaign world, but was designed to be easily incorporated into your home campaign as a large archipelago of islands where all the dragons hung out. I do not believe a name was ever given for a planet, as the setting was for any campaign.
Above posters have Jakandor nailed. Like Council of Wyrms, it was a "micro" setting that could be incorporated into your home campaign, but was also detailed and big enough to run independent games totally within the setting. Interesting factoid, the Jakandor series was originally going to be called "Steel & Bone", which I thought was a very cool name for a campaign setting!
Ghostwalk actually was a complete setting of its own. Although really it was presented as another "micro" setting, just with notes on the surrounding lands. In fact, it was a lot like Monte Cook's (the author) Ptolus product, where the book focuses on a city that could be easily incorporated into any home setting, but included notes on the surrounding campaign world if you wanted to use it.
Edit: Oops. Forgot the OP! I'm pretty sure that NONE of the mentioned settings had names given to the planet it was set upon, and of course as mentioned above, several of the settings were meant to be placed upon the planet of YOUR campaign setting.
Blackmoor is its own campaign setting, although as mentioned it is a region within a larger world (but most campaign settings are). It was NOT incorporated into Greyhawk, but a region of Greyhawk was named Blackmoor. It WAS incorporated into Mystara, but not so much as a separate region but rather as an important region in Mystara's distant past. It was one of the original D&D campaign settings and was published second only to Greyhawk itself. The campaign's creator, Dave Arneson, who also co-created D&D, did retain some/all (not sure) of the rights and authorized a third-party d20 version of the setting a few years back. Did Blackmoor have a special name for the planet it was set on? I don't think so, but I'm not sure . . .
Council of Wyrms was NOT a fully independent campaign world, but was designed to be easily incorporated into your home campaign as a large archipelago of islands where all the dragons hung out. I do not believe a name was ever given for a planet, as the setting was for any campaign.
Above posters have Jakandor nailed. Like Council of Wyrms, it was a "micro" setting that could be incorporated into your home campaign, but was also detailed and big enough to run independent games totally within the setting. Interesting factoid, the Jakandor series was originally going to be called "Steel & Bone", which I thought was a very cool name for a campaign setting!
Ghostwalk actually was a complete setting of its own. Although really it was presented as another "micro" setting, just with notes on the surrounding lands. In fact, it was a lot like Monte Cook's (the author) Ptolus product, where the book focuses on a city that could be easily incorporated into any home setting, but included notes on the surrounding campaign world if you wanted to use it.
Edit: Oops. Forgot the OP! I'm pretty sure that NONE of the mentioned settings had names given to the planet it was set upon, and of course as mentioned above, several of the settings were meant to be placed upon the planet of YOUR campaign setting.
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