D&D 5E What is the opposite of a Modron?

[MarkB]

A Nordom, obviously. Embodiments of all that is chaotic.

Oh, nonsense. Nordom isn't really all that chaotic, he's just somewhat disordered.

 

[Son of the Serpent]

complete individuality and chaos is a false equivalency. so actually, that is irrelevant. it likely wouldn't be perfectly individual to the point of having no commonalities with "others". that said, it likely would have very few commonalities. but commonalities being completely non-present as a rule would be unlikely, PARTICULARLY for something of pure, raw, perfect chaos to be frank. you would be adding limiting perimeters. true chaos doesn't have those.

 

[Tony Vargas]

complete individuality and chaos is a false equivalency.

Sometimes I think chaos and Chaos is a false equivalency.

I mean, we talk about a system being chaotic or ordered - not chaotic or lawful. In the context of alignment, Lawful doesn't really mean law-abiding, and Chaotic doesn't really mean a system lacking order.

 

[Son of the Serpent]

well i suppose that is true.

my rp group abandoned the law and chaos interpretation long ago.

we go by stasis/chaos and have for a few decades now.

turns out when you make that shift, after working out some kinks and applying the idea of gradiant to the dimensions there are far fewer problems and things work much more smoothly. its a better dichotomy in almost every way, and you can still derive law and social chaos from it (as far less extreme and less broad sub groupings within the former) fairly easily without the big mess that is inherent to the arrangement prior to the alteration i refer to. it is true that not everyone does this though. i've known a lot of groups other than ours to do this as well though. works sooooo much better. logically as well as in many other ways.

 

[Son of the Serpent]

on a side note here's a fun fact. you can never get a chaotic system out of a static one but you can get a static one out of a chaotic one.

 

[Son of the Serpent]

another fun fact. a truly perfectly static system cannot be perceived or interacted with. as a result, it cannot be measured and actually functionally doesn't exist relative to us save for the simple hypothetical fact in and of itself that it exists.

one partial exception exists. the scenario in which a perfectly static region of a system has one way outward capacity to apply effects to other things but no capability for intake of effects. this is only a partial exception because the system as a whole is not truly static. only a region/portion of it is.

no such scenario has been proven conclusively to have been discovered as an extant phenomenon, but would technically be a possible partial exception. its partial though because that would not be the full system.

if the full system is static, then what i said before is true without exception. unobservable, immeasurable, non interactable.

 

[Son of the Serpent]

a perfectly static system can be interacted with prior to becoming as such. but this is because at that point in time it has yet to become perfectly static. once stasis is acheived though (perfectly) it will never have the ability to be interacted with again else what we are talking about is merely circumstantially static.

 

[Tony Vargas]

Oh, I don't know why I didn't think of this sooner:

The opposite of a Mod is a Square.

 

[Son of the Serpent]

heh

xD

 

[MarkB]

Oh, I don't know why I didn't think of this sooner:

The opposite of a Mod is a Square.

So, the opposite of a Modron is a Squadron?