What is the point of GM's notes?

[Bedrockgames]

Yes, this seems wise of you.

Have a nice day: goodbye

 

[Ovinomancer]

Have a nice day: goodbye

Comma, not colon.

 

[hawkeyefan]

 

[Fenris-77]

Comma, not colon.

Maybe he's starting a list...

 

[Bedrockgames]

All that needs doing is to ask a question. What do you mean by fiction? To which I reply, the narration or description of imaginary events and people (a dictionary definition buy the way). After that, what other people mean, or say, doesn't matter.

Your appreciation of hostility is missing the extent to which you've derailed this entire thread by worrying more about possible equivocation by unnamed people in unknown contexts, rather than the actual use and context of this actual thread.

You guys are the ones derailing the thread. I make an objection to a term. You can ignore that objection, you can respond to it and move on. You guys are the ones circling around me, and hate posting me. The derailment has been you guys pedantically arguing with me over whether I used equivocation correctly. I respond to posts in kind. If people are nice, I am nice. If people are mean, I am more defensive. If people are behaving aggressively or rudely, I don't pretend they aren't doing so. I admit I made a somewhat aggressive comment early in this thread stating I felt the thread title was something of a trap (which was due to my interactions with the OP around the topic in the threads I mentioned). Some people agreed with me and that led to a lot of argumentation. Not my best day on En World, I readily admit. But I don't think that warrants what I have received here (and it isn't like this is unique to this thread, plenty of the posters who are hostile to me, have long been hostile to me for previous interactions over similar topics).

Let me be clear: I want you to stop aggressively posting at me. I am happy to engage all of you. Not here to be your bad guy.

 

[Bedrockgames]

Comma, not colon.

You are an naughty word (and that is a fact, not an opinion)

 

[Fenris-77]

Well, this is a pickle, isn't it? You have, manifestly, been derailing the thread for days with constant references to equivocation and word use, constantly dismissing arguments and positions based solely on a word or two. But taken to task about that, the finger gets pointed elsewhere. That seems self-serving, at the very least. You wouldn't be satisfied with offerings of stable definitions, nor specific examples of said same, you harped away on this strawman of possible equivocation. I would suggest that the question should be put to you, not anyone else, can we let that petty crap go and just talk about the hobby? Can we stick to the people and words in this thread rather than vague allusions to other people, other uses, and other threads?

 

[Bedrockgames]

Well, this is a pickle, isn't it? You have, manifestly, been derailing the thread for days with constant references to equivocation and word use, constantly dismissing arguments and positions based solely on a word or two. But taken to task about that, the finger gets pointed elsewhere. That seems self-serving, at the very least. You wouldn't be satisfied with offerings of stable definitions, nor specific examples of said same, you harped away on this strawman of possible equivocation. I would suggest that the question should be put to you, not anyone else, can we let that petty crap go and just talk about the hobby? Can we stick to the people and words in this thread rather than vague allusions to other people, other uses, and other threads?

Fenris I think I have shown I have no problem when people disagree with me or even take me to task. But I do have a problem with snide posts, aggressive posts, being the subject of a coordinated dog pile, and when people don't seem to be making good faith objections to my posts (where they just appear to be engaged in specious and pedantic arguments around words). Maybe you think that is just giving me a dose of my own medicine. But I would argue the concern around equivocation of fiction is a valid one (I could be wrong for sure, but it is a reasonable issue to raise). Dissecting my use of equivocation in some attempt to prove I don't understand the word, I think clearly disingenuous and just done to be spiteful and attempt to humiliate me. Now I will admit there were times I made personal attacks myself (but in those instances I do feel they were against posters who were behaving somewhat abusively towards other posters by lording knowledge and expertise over them).

Personally Fenris, I like you as a poster. I have enjoyed our conversations. So I am perfectly happy to ignore this going forward (which I can't say for posters like Aldarc and Ovin because there is long history of these kinds of exchanges there).

 

[Bedrockgames]

constantly dismissing arguments and positions based solely on a word or two.

Look in the mirror. People on my side of the fence spent the better part of the thread having to defend their use of the two words "Living World". This isn't just me coming in and storming a happy and productive thread

 

[Fenris-77]

Well, as I mentioned upstream, this isn't personal. You should take to heart though that I am fully as frustrated with you as I imagine you are with me. I wouldn't have bothered taking you to task without good cause. The problem remains that you don't seem to see your part in this at all. So rather than trying to reflect or divert blame, why not spend a second thinking about the idea that my post above was actually an entirely accurate description of your posting in this thread, and not some rhetorical construct designed to hurt your feelings?