What is this I am hearing about PHB2/DMG2/MM2 being required?
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Fallen Seraph
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They are core in being that they give core-options, such as new races, templates, traps, armour, monsters, etc.
They are not needed to run the game, they are there to give new options to the core game in one complete package.
They are not needed to run the game, they are there to give new options to the core game in one complete package.
Fallen Seraph said:
That is more or less how I had understood it, but then some folks started going on about how they will be "required", seeing them as basically errata incorporating reprints of the same information with a bit of new added in, and will be the basis in organized play (such as cons and such), making them "required".
AZRogue
Explorer
And, since they are clearly core material (as in, you need them if you want to use those Classes, Races, Powers, etc.), they should sell well. Core books usually do. I think this might give the line some added life and extend it much further as opposed to adding things only in splat books. The distinction is helpful. That's why they've deliberately left some things out of the first PHB to leave them room to work when the next few PHBs/DMGs/MMs are released.
FitzTheRuke
Legend
What's more, as far as I know (and I own a game store) they are ANNUAL, meaning we should get Books 2 in June 2009 and PHB3, DMG3, and MM3 in Jun 2010 and so on. I expect it may become semi-annual and we won't always see 'em in June, but there you go.
They are simply books full of more crunch, with the idea being that there will be LESS core crunch in other places (IE less glut of splat books). If this is true, I will be very happy.
Fitz
They are simply books full of more crunch, with the idea being that there will be LESS core crunch in other places (IE less glut of splat books). If this is true, I will be very happy.
Fitz
AZRogue
Explorer
ThatsDM2U said:
I don't think they'll be rehashes. There might be SOME errata, I don't know, but they're supposed to contain new Power sources and the Classes able to use those Powers. Not to mention Races, feats, etc.
I imagine we'll see Power sources such as Psionic, Shadow, Primal, etc. So, not reprints, from my understanding. But still core.
AZRogue
Explorer
FitzTheRuke said:
Well put.
I think this idea has a lot of potential and could be good for both the edition and for customers. It gives designers some wriggle room. But then again, money isn't a concern when it comes to games for me, so I can see how it would not be looked at favorably by some.
FitzTheRuke
Legend
Oh yeah, it's something people don't quite realize about it all.
One of the reasons they left out Gnomes, Barbarians, Bards, Half-Orcs, Sorcerers, etc, is because they need some classic core stuff to legitimize the 2nd books. What better way to make people see the new books as Core than having the "missing" classics?
Fitz
One of the reasons they left out Gnomes, Barbarians, Bards, Half-Orcs, Sorcerers, etc, is because they need some classic core stuff to legitimize the 2nd books. What better way to make people see the new books as Core than having the "missing" classics?
Fitz
1. You can run a 4E campaign with only the first 3 books: PHB/MM/DMG.
2. The 4E PHB2/MM2/DMG2 will contain some material that in 3E was in the PHB/MM/DMB. Most notably, druids, barbarians and metallic dragons are likely to be in the 4E PHB2/MM2.
3. The PHB2/MM2/DMG2 will be considered as "core" by WotC; what this most likely implies is that the material there will see use in published modules, RPGA campaigns, etc. This has its good and bad points.
2. The 4E PHB2/MM2/DMG2 will contain some material that in 3E was in the PHB/MM/DMB. Most notably, druids, barbarians and metallic dragons are likely to be in the 4E PHB2/MM2.
3. The PHB2/MM2/DMG2 will be considered as "core" by WotC; what this most likely implies is that the material there will see use in published modules, RPGA campaigns, etc. This has its good and bad points.
small pumpkin man
Explorer
I don't believe there will be significant reprinting, why would they be any different from the various MMs or PHB2?ThatsDM2U said:
