what is wrong with a shielding rapier???

[chillwindhaven69]

on the min/max boards at wizards somebody said that this sword was unbalanced:a +1 rapier with the shield spell in effect once drawn.

according to the DMG, this would cost:

spell level x caster level x 2000gp
1 x 1 x 2000gp =2000gp
+1 rapier = 2320gp
+1 shielding rapier =4320gp

now considering this ability can be used an unlimited amount of times, but lasts only 1 minute per use, i dont think it is unbalanced.
opinions???

 

[Sinistar]

Is the use one time per day? I am not familiar with all the rulings exactly on weapon properties.

If it is once per day at first level, I see nothing wrong with it...

 

[chillwindhaven69]

no, it can be used unlimited times.........this is due to the part in the DMG on creating magic items.

 

[Joker]

according to the rules it's fine, but getting +7 on ur ac and +3 on ur reflex every single time u draw ur sword is extremely powerful.

Oh wait, this isn't one of those trolls, is it?

Tata.

 

[chillwindhaven69]

sorry i forgot to say that it takes a standard action to activate it once drawn, then it lasts for 1 minute, then you must use another standard action to activate it again, provoking AoO's whenever it is activated, it has unlimited charges.

great joke about the trolls btw, that was extremely funny and original, i ought to remeber that one along with the good old parent jokes.

 

[Bonedagger]

Ok. I'll be serious.

It is unbalanced because shield is unbalanced.. Even when used by a mage. Having a weightless +7 to AC that stacks with normal armor, absorbs Magic Missile, prevent AoO, gives +3 to refleks saves, can be hidden easily and doesn't hinder skillchecks is very powerfull.

Most combats are, btw, over in less than a minute. So your timelimit doesn't really add to the balance.

I would not allow it

 

[Joker]

Before I forget, the price is +4000gp because it doesn't take up a slot.

 

[chillwindhaven69]

yes joker, that is also true.......i copy and pasted the unedited post from wizards by accident .thank you for bringing my attention to that.


ok then so is this version balanced:

+1 shielding rapier (5 charges per day)

5/5charges per day = 1

spell level x caster level x 2000gp/1
1 x 1 x 2000gp/1 =2000gp
+1 rapier =2320gp
2000 x 2 + 2320 =6320gp

it takes a standard action for the shield spell to be activated and then it lasts for 1 minute, this ability is usable 5 times per day.

 

[Sodalis]

does activation have to be a command word? or can it be just "being drawn from the sheath" cause if that is the case, the standard action can be negated with +1 BAB+move action and also quickdraw

i like your imagination tho- very funny.... but not in my world

 

[chillwindhaven69]

yes, it is command word, because i saw that whole quick-draw problem, still what do you think........balnced????