What new "nonmagical" classes will be coming out?

Well, I suppose we could use one or more of the following:

Swashbuckler
Knight/Cavalier
Bounty Hunter
Thief (less strikerish, more skillish rogue)
Assassin
Swordmaster(light/un- armored, big-weapon striker?)
Monk
 

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You can even argue that no class in 4E is nonmagical as the only really satisfactory explanation of encounter/daily exploits which doesn't falls apart is that they are also magic powered.

I think that's either very off-topic or threadcrapping (if you're intending to sidetrack the thread). If you've got a drum you really need to beat, it's probably best to start a new thread for it.

Back on-topic, I could see them releasing a heavy thrown weapon specialist.
 

The thing is, there aren't "spellcasters" and "non-spellcasters" under the Powers system. Everyone uses the same mechanics. If you're asking if there's more strikers and defenders (the two roles that seem tailor made for "martial" classes) then, well, beats me :p

If you're asking about supernatural against non-supernatural, that's a really tricky one. There are already abilities for the mundane martial classes that people can't decide on being supernatural or not. I'm not talking about how the Powers system works what with daily or per-encounter, I mean the abilities themselves stretch mortal limitations at times, and some people feel this makes them supernatural. I'm not trying to start an argument here, mind you; it's very, VERY tricky to come to a complete agreement on what is supernatural, and downright impossible to come to an agreement on what isn't. I think this argument in particular is going to get heated once the barbarian comes out.
 

If by "nonmagical" you do in fact mean martial, then (I can't quote where because I really don't remember) but I seem to recall some interview where one of the WotC team said they were doing the Martial Power sourcebook first because they have _NO plans_ to do any more martial powered classes, thus, it was easier to cap off the feats and what not for the book. Of course, that quote may not longer be valid if they ended up changing their mind since the time they said that.

However, if by nonmagical, you mean "often hit things with weapon damage rather than some newfangled energy type" (I guess a good way to distinguish them is -- more powers with the Weapon keyword as opposed to the Implement keyword) then you'll probably get your barbarian, monk, and some others that we don't yet know the details of and can only guess ...
 


PHB page 54 identifies the future power sources:

Future power sources include elemental, ki, primal, psionic, and shadow.

...plus there are the PHB1 arcane, martial, and divine power sources, of course.

Of these, the only obviously non-magical is martial. I could see some or all of ki and primal as being non-magical. Psionic depends more on how you feel about psionics, I think. Elemental and shadow would seem more "magic" to me.

Of course, it's hard to say for sure until we eventually see the relevant PHB's.
 

PHB page 54 identifies the future power sources:
...plus there are the PHB1 arcane, martial, and divine power sources, of course. Of these, the only obviously non-magical is martial. I could see some or all of ki and primal as being non-magical. Psionic depends more on how you feel about psionics, I think. Elemental and shadow would seem more "magic" to me. Of course, it's hard to say for sure until we eventually see the relevant PHB's.

Thanks for all the tips on this stuff guys. Although I'm no longer running in the CONAN world for D&D, I am running in the WARHAMMER world and anyone using "magical power" commands raw chaos, and always has the opportunity for some mishaps :)

Thanks!

Jay H
 

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