D&D (2024) What older setting do you want to see next?

[Clint_L]

Greyhawk would be purely a nostalgia play for the 50th anniversary. If it doesn't show up in 2024, it's not showing up.

It's been released in multiple editions, so not sure why you assert that it would be "purely" nostalgia. Obviously, a celebration of the original setting would be more than apt for the 50th anniversary, but it is also a great setting that spawned a ton of adventures that are still played.

 

[Haplo781]

It's been released in multiple editions, so not sure why you assert that it would be "purely" nostalgia. Obviously, a celebration of the original setting would be more than apt for the 50th anniversary, but it is also a great setting that spawned a ton of adventures that are still played.

Adventure anthology + DM's Guild support might be the way to to go.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

It's been released in multiple editions, so not sure why you assert that it would be "purely" nostalgia.

Because WotC has explicitly said they are putting out new settings because they offer a new-to-this-edition playstyle. This was explicitly said in reference to Theros and Strixhaven, but it was stated as a general principles.

Now, my first D&D setting with the Greyhawk Folio, but it's wishful thinking to say that the kind of adventures that take place on Oerth are, generally speaking, very different than those that take place in the Forgotten Realms, generally speaking. (Yes, we can definitely find some corner cases where each setting is unique -- ISLAND OF THE FLYING MONKEYS! -- but this is a general statement.)

WotC are also the beneficiaries of TSR losing money by putting out settings that competed with each other for the same handful of gamer dollars. They're not going to do it again.

The World of Greyhawk is great. I love the World of Greyhawk. But by WotC's definition, there's not enough in the setting to make it a distinct, non-competing setting when compared to the 800 lb. gorilla of the Forgotten Realms, which they have invested, relatively speaking, a lot of time and energy in.

So, what does have Greyhawk have to offer that might be commercially compelling for WotC? 50th anniversary nostalgia, especially if they can convince Gail Gyxax to let them use some of the material she's sitting on.

But in 2022, 2023, 2025, it's a setting that competes with the Forgotten Realms. So a no go.

(That said, if it's not already unlocked on the DMs Guild, WotC ought to do so, ASAP.)

 

[Haplo781]

Because WotC has explicitly said they are putting out new settings because they offer a new-to-this-edition playstyle. This was explicitly said in reference to Theros and Strixhaven, but it was stated as a general principles.

Now, my first D&D setting with the Greyhawk Folio, but is wishful thinking to say that the kind of adventures that take place on Oerth are, generally speaking, very different than those that take place in the Forgotten Realms, generally speaking. (Yes, we can definitely find some corner cases where each setting is unique -- ISLAND OF THE FLYING MONKEYS! -- but this is a general statement.)

WotC are also the beneficiaries of TSR losing money by putting out settings that competed with each other for the same handful of gamer dollars. They're not going to do it again.

The World of Greyhawk is great. I love the World of Greyhawk, but by WotC's definition, there's not enough in the setting to make it a distinct, non-competing setting when compared to the 800 lb. gorilla of the Forgotten Realms, which they have invested, relatively speaking, a lot of time and energy in.

So, what does have Greyhawk have to offer that might be commercially compelling for WotC? 50th anniversary nostalgia, especially if they can convince Gail Greyhawk to let them use some of the material she's sitting on.

But in 2022, 2023, 2025, it's a setting that competes with the Forgotten Realms. So a no go.

(That said, if it's not already unlocked on the DMs Guild, WotC ought to do so, ASAP.)

They specifically exempted Ghosts of Saltmarsh from unlocking it.

 

[Micah Sweet]

They specifically exempted Ghosts of Saltmarsh from unlocking it.

But that was years ago. WotC has changed their business plan with D&D since then. They may have been holding a spot for Greyhawk back then, but I doubt they are now.

 

[Parmandur]

Because WotC has explicitly said they are putting out new settings because they offer a new-to-this-edition playstyle. This was explicitly said in reference to Theros and Strixhaven, but it was stated as a general principles.

Now, my first D&D setting with the Greyhawk Folio, but it's wishful thinking to say that the kind of adventures that take place on Oerth are, generally speaking, very different than those that take place in the Forgotten Realms, generally speaking. (Yes, we can definitely find some corner cases where each setting is unique -- ISLAND OF THE FLYING MONKEYS! -- but this is a general statement.)

WotC are also the beneficiaries of TSR losing money by putting out settings that competed with each other for the same handful of gamer dollars. They're not going to do it again.

The World of Greyhawk is great. I love the World of Greyhawk. But by WotC's definition, there's not enough in the setting to make it a distinct, non-competing setting when compared to the 800 lb. gorilla of the Forgotten Realms, which they have invested, relatively speaking, a lot of time and energy in.

So, what does have Greyhawk have to offer that might be commercially compelling for WotC? 50th anniversary nostalgia, especially if they can convince Gail Greyhawk to let them use some of the material she's sitting on.

But in 2022, 2023, 2025, it's a setting that competes with the Forgotten Realms. So a no go.

(That said, if it's not already unlocked on the DMs Guild, WotC ought to do so, ASAP.)

Don't underestimate the nostalgia play with. 50 year old property held by an IP obsessed toy manufacturer

 

[Haplo781]

But that was years ago. WotC has changed their business plan with D&D since then. They may have been holding a spot for Greyhawk back then, but I doubt they are now.

I just think they want to be proprietary. There's nothing stopping them from unlocking Council of Wyrms, which is never getting revisited. But they haven't.

 

[TwiceBorn2]

The Flan are Indigenous in US and Canada.

This is but one interpretation, and not necessarily the one that matches Gygax's original vision.

Notice the problematic portrayals of the Indigenous in Central America (Amedio) and South America (Hepmonaland), who are said to be Suel Whites who lost their White-ness.

I think you are overlooking the Olman ("Meso American") peoples of the Amedio Jungle, who definitely are not "Suel Whites who lost their Whiteness," as you put it. But both peoples did migrate to the Amedio Jungle from elsewhere (Hepmonaland for the Olman, the Suel Imperium for the "once-Suloise"). The former arguably are more dominant in the area than the latter.

 

[aia_2]

Well, the poll doesn't include the very first setting of rpg history, Blackmoor. I would have voted for it...
But given what someone has done in the past with the revamping of Blackmoor for 3.5, i prefer not to see any further re-edition of the gems of the past (for the announcment of a new edition of Planescape for instance i have bad feelings on the final outcome...).
I second the idea to leave the "good ideas working in the past" as they are and find smtg new for the audience of these days.

 

[Haplo781]

Well, the poll doesn't include the very first setting of rpg history, Blackmoor. I would have voted for it...
But given what someone has done in the past with the revamping of Blackmoor for 3.5, i prefer not to see any further re-edition of the gems of the past (for the announcment of a new edition of Planescape for instance i have bad feelings on the final outcome...).
I second the idea to leave the "good ideas working in the past" as they are and find smtg new for the audience of these days.

Didn't Blackmoor get folded into Greyhawk?