What types of races are you tired of seeing?


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I'm tired of all NON-HUMAN races like elves, dwarves, halflings, etc... but give me a few animal-like races from AE, and I'm all for it because they are DIFFERENT enough to me to be different than the crap I'm given in the PHB.

Why do some people complain about all these cat-races we get, but not complain about all the human-like races (such as elves and dwarves) which are sooooooo much more common?
 

I'm not sick of race concepts per se, but I'm no friend of this tendency to create some stupid subrace for each and every cultural trait conceivable. D&D 3.x gives us the tools to customize PC's and NPC's alike, so we can achieve cultural diversity by means of feats, regional prestige classes or simply flavour text. Therefore, IMC, I'm much more restrictive with available races.

Of course, there are quite a lot of races that I'm not very fond of, like giants, halflings or most of the simple animal races. But here the solution is simple: I just don't use them :). With all these half-breeds I don't see the reason why they are separate races in the first place.

However, I think there are truly innovative race concepts out there. Arcana Evolved is a good example. I dislike giants or furry races like sibeccai or litorians, as I said before. But just think of the concept behind sibeccai as a race that has been raised to a conscious state by another one, or races like mojh and sprytes that start their lives as a different race and are the product of a deliberate choice by that particular individual, or Runechildren that are changed by destiny. These are concepts I can fully embrace :).
 

I'm tired of seeing monster races with huge LA's nobody wants to play a +8 LA Vampire! I want vampires a werewolves with no LA.
 

I am sick of seeing new (imho superfluous) races and having a third of a book devoted to them.

I was sick of Drow by the end of the 4th Drizzt Book...

Now I am *really* sick of Drow. (and I used to love them so much.)
 




Psion said:
You know, I am not seeing this deluge of cat-races. Until races of the wild, I only knew of one in a generic supplement that had a cat-race. And there are one or two in settings.

By my count so far: Vah Shir (EQPHB), Litorian (AU/AE), Artathi (Mythic Races), Catfolk (RotW), Wemic (RoF), Pershala (Galactic Races), Nasimir (AEG's Monster, but they are more of a half-race), Cat Folk (D20 Modern Menace Manual), Cathar (UAA), Farghul (UAA), Trianii (UAA), and Paka (Ravenloft's Denizens of Dread). I'm sure I'm missing a couple. (I didn't count Rakastas since they haven't been done in an "official" capacity that I know of yet.) I know that not all of these are D&D-specific, but when you use just about every book in your library (as I do) there are a proliferation of cat people. This is also just the list of the cat-races that are in print, in my own collection, this doesn't cover books that I don't own or all of the pdf's that I do. (I think there's another cat race in Silverthorne Games' Races of Evernor line...)


Psion said:
Bastards and bloodlines is a good example of what not to do, but I'll raise you with Eberron.

While I thought a lot of the race were a little weird in Bastards and Bloodlines, I still liked many of the races...I just felt dirty reading the origin descriptions! Eberron had some great ideas for races that were mixes of two species. If B&B would have been closer to what Eberron brought us, I wouldn't have had to do a lot of re-writing for my games.

All in all, I like having a LOT of options, I just wish that some avenues that haven't been done to death would get explored a little more often. I hate having to tell a player that they can't use the newest Elven or Dwarven subrace because we already have a world chock full of Elves and Dwarves!

Kane
 


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