cmbarona
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To clarify, any character can use a ranged basic attack at any time. They just need an appropriate weapon, of which bows are one.
Whats the point of a ranged basic attack?
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To clarify, any character can use a ranged basic attack at any time. They just need an appropriate weapon, of which bows are one.
smaugfrost
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Basic Ranged Attacks...advantage?
HELLS YES!
Remember the simple exploitation of the various magic items in the PHB and AV...
Eagle Eye Goggles add +2 to hit with basic ranged attacks
Bracers of Sure Striking (?) add +2 to damage of basic ranged attacks
...to name just TWO. I am certain there are others.
Also, in a purely 3.5 styled dick-over, a DM could introduce an anti-magic zone which would prevent all spells from activating. I would rule that the "eldritch blast" and "magic missile" would still function since they are not counted as "memorized spells" (Daily or Encounter).
Just a thought really.
My oldest player created a warlock who now does more damage with his eldritch blast than with ANY of his encounter based powers. He just runs around seeking concealment and launches "eldritch blasts" like an arcane sniper.
The party went through TWO milestones (four encounters), and he only had burned a few utility based powers (movement). It helped the party tremendously to have a solitary source of constant whupass, and freed up the other classes to strut their stuff.
It also allowed the player of the warlock to choose more intertesting encounter based powers, since straight damage was not a factor.
Very cool build possibilities.
HELLS YES!
Remember the simple exploitation of the various magic items in the PHB and AV...
Eagle Eye Goggles add +2 to hit with basic ranged attacks
Bracers of Sure Striking (?) add +2 to damage of basic ranged attacks
...to name just TWO. I am certain there are others.
Also, in a purely 3.5 styled dick-over, a DM could introduce an anti-magic zone which would prevent all spells from activating. I would rule that the "eldritch blast" and "magic missile" would still function since they are not counted as "memorized spells" (Daily or Encounter).
Just a thought really.
My oldest player created a warlock who now does more damage with his eldritch blast than with ANY of his encounter based powers. He just runs around seeking concealment and launches "eldritch blasts" like an arcane sniper.
The party went through TWO milestones (four encounters), and he only had burned a few utility based powers (movement). It helped the party tremendously to have a solitary source of constant whupass, and freed up the other classes to strut their stuff.
It also allowed the player of the warlock to choose more intertesting encounter based powers, since straight damage was not a factor.
Very cool build possibilities.
Danceofmasks
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Eagle eye goggles are very nice, but ... head slot is tough to use up for a bonus to RBA.
The +1 version is only level 2 though, so you can pretty much get them right off the bat.
The +1 version is only level 2 though, so you can pretty much get them right off the bat.
Plane Sailing
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All very well, but there are at least twice as many powers which allow basic melee attacks as ranged attacks (including a warlord at-will), as well as non-power-related situations where basic melee attacks can be made (such as opportunity attacks).
Quite a few of the warlord powers I listed requires the beneficiary to be within 5 squares of the warlord too, which means that the ranged caster isn't safely in the distance but has to be right up there in the combat, which isn't always going to be the case!
Plane Sailing
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Well... no.
For those who don't snap up every book that comes out, AV can be discounted. I'm interested in how things sit with the PHB/MM/DMG.
Within there, I've listed everything that has to do with basic ranged attacks. There is only ONE magic item, which is the bracers of sure striking (which I listed). A decent little damage boost for magic missile & eldritch blast but... still lacking something, I feel.
Plane Sailing
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When you are dominated you are are limited to using at-wills, not to basic attacks. And even if you were, it would just mean that a magic missiler is more of a liability when dominated since he would be able to blast away at you rather than picking up a stick and ponking you!.
Cheers
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If you're going to restrict your review to the core three books, then, well, no, its not used much, as we all basically know.
I guess that's the end of the discussion?
My expectation is that its got to do with warlord compatibility, and that we'll see more of it in martial power.
Making it a ranged basic attack is still justified simply on the "let's leave this design space open" philosophy, even if a particular player doesn't end up ever exploring the later options.
