Whats the point of monkey grip?

[Fearbreed]

Not really. I used the Exotic Prof for the fullblade as listed in the weapons description, used Monkey Grip as described. The only thing that might be a house rule might have been the tattoo of improved Expansion. The idea of reach should be common sense since the blade is nearly 10ft long and business end of the blade includes all of it makes it capable of attacking adjacent targets, unlike polearms that are at the end of a stick. As you grow in size your weapon doubles in size so you begin to factor in weapon length and arm length so you really start to gain a good threat zone. You could use a house rule on the bracers in order to eliminate the -2 penalty that Monkey Grip leaves behind or just use Weapon Focus to offset some or all of it like I did.

If I had gotten to play the character long enough I would have actually taken Power Attack too just so I could do an even greater shock and awe attack at the beginning of combat.

 

[aarondirebear]

You start getting silly stuff like this:

I can't even get a mental picture of someone trying to fight with those without him falling all over himself and coming off like a spaz...

How do you live without an imagination? And I am NOT just saying. I have a point to make.

 

[Dandu]

He has an imagination, he's just not stupid.

 

[Starbuck_II]

The idea of reach should be common sense since the blade is nearly 10ft long and business end of the blade includes all of it makes it capable of attacking adjacent targets, unlike polearms that are at the end of a stick. As you grow in size your weapon doubles in size so you begin to factor in weapon length and arm length so you really start to gain a good threat zone.

That is the house rule.
You didn't grow in size: your weapon didn't grow in size. You used a weapon that is larger.
Only larger size grants reach not larger weapons (there was your houserule).

Expansion/Enlarge Person grants reach, but it no effect on weapon used: a Medium creature becominglarge still only has 10ft reach. Even a gargantuan warhammer wielded by a meduim creature (granted by Titan Bloodline for example) has 5 ft reach even though it is the size of a car.

Common sense changes = houserules. Why? Because unless you make that an official rule in everyone's house it is a rule for your house and not ours (dubbed houserule).

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

Only larger size grants reach not larger weapons ...
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Common sense changes = houserules. Why? Because unless you make that an official rule in everyone's house it is a rule for your house and not ours (dubbed houserule).

I wouldn't exactly call that a houserule- as stated upthread, while the first line of yours is 100% RAW, at least one of the game's designers has said that larger weapons granting reach is within the spirit of the rule.

This kind of ruling could be considered a different reading/interpretation of the rule or possibly even RAI (in some cases), which (at least to me) lies between RAW and a true houserule.

 

[aarondirebear]

He has an imagination, he's just not stupid.

What is stupid about being able to imagine a man wielding a sword twice his size? It's a fantasy role playing game where characters slay dragons and can kick down metal doors.

 

[Hughjefender]

the idea is a bit trite and overdone in all matters of anime shows. It gets old real fast.

 

[Dandu]

What is stupid about being able to imagine a man wielding a sword twice his size? It's a fantasy role playing game where characters slay dragons and can kick down metal doors.

Oh, there's nothing stupid about being able to imagine it.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

the idea is a bit trite and overdone in all matters of anime shows. It gets old real fast.

Not if you don't watch a lot of anime.

(Personal collection: Slayers, Dragon Half...and looking for Fooly Cooly.)

 

[Fearbreed]

You have to try to think outside the box on these kinds of things. In this case the box is silly combat abilities. I'll admit when I created the monstrosity of a sword I called Buford the BFB (spelled Beufjord), my main goal was combat devastation. However, I did also keep in mind its roleplaying applications in that it is really long blade that in tight spots could be used as a potential weight, a short bridge to span small gaps, a ramp, an impressive intimidation device, an attention gatherer when the party needed or other players wanting not to be noticed, a 10ft + pole that I was willing to touch things with, or just something I could slam into place to bar/lock a door.

I believe my usage of the feat was rather appropriate and well within the spirit of the feat considering the Epic version they have shows a halfling wielding a frost giants axe that has a blade bigger than he is. The feat is meant to be silly and absurd, to be useful in combat, and FUN for the player to have. If you are the player and its not fun for you don't take it. If you are the DM and its not fun for you....deal with it cause its not really meant for you. Everyone has to remember that this is a FANTASY RPG where you are supposed to have and fun and be creative. Otherwise there's no point in playing.