When Bob wants to play a female PC

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Old One said:
That said, I have banned certain players from going cross-gender because they suck at it so bad :p!

That, I wouldn't disagree with. I know several male players (all over the age of 30) who really seem to *enjoy* playing females...but they're absolutely atrocious at it. They tend to play them as creepy oversexed thangs.

When these players play male characters, they never play them that way. So, I suspect it's that these players have their own hangups.

To the original poster: I give you a lot of credit for at least recognizing that you've got a hangup about this. I'm no therapist, but I wonder if the fact that you're playing with an all-male-player group is magnifying your issues with this.
 

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Lasher Dragon said:
Does anyone else find his signature so amusing when compared with his post?

:p

No contradiction. They have the free will to ask for it. I have the free will to say "no". Since I'm the GM, I win. :)
 

Well, let me see if I can explain my viewpoint on this where it will make sense to people. First, some background, to eliminate any vagueness. I am 40 years old, and have been gaming for just over 25 years. I am not only comfortable in my own sexuality, but I am comfortable with others expressing their own sexuality. The gender or sexual preference of a player has no effect on whether they are part of my game group. Currently I have 9 players in my group (plus me). There are 3 women, 6 men (plus myself), 2 of the players are married to each other, 2 are getting married this year, 2 are an unmarried couple, 2 are married to non-gamers, and myself and 1 of the other men are single. At least 2 of the players are bisexual (one of each gender) and 1 of the women is bi-curious. None of the players are anywhere close to being homophobic or even uncomfortable around homosexuals (male or female).

All that being said, I do not allow players to start a campaign as a character of the opposite gender. If one of them loses a character and decides to create a different character, I am not adverse to letting them play an opposite gender character. The reason for this is simple. When starting a campaign, especially with a group this size, the DM needs as few confusing bits as possible. Knowing that I can associate the character gender with the player gender allows me to quickly work in certain elements of a campaign without constantly having to check things.

As an example, I had a roughed out idea for a starting encounter, one where the characters come together during the first session. One of the NPCs would only trust some information to another woman, because she was suspicious of the men of the small town. This is for good reason, as the men were being controlled by a necromancer who was using the men to create an army of zombies. So, knowing that she would not trust men I could easily roleplay the encounter with the players by talking only to the female players and being shy and evasive towards the men. There was no mental notes required that I have to include "Bob" in the group of females because he is playing a female character.

It made the encounter easier for me to adjudicate. Until I got used to running htis big of a group the same gender rule jst made things easier for me. Juggling class and race information for 9 players is bad enough, at least this way tring to remember gender as well was not an issue. Not everyone sits with a picture of their character propped in front of them*, so remembering details about a character can be difficult for spontaneous role-playing.

So, call me lazy, call me a prude, whatever floats your boat. I insist that players play their own gender purely for selfish reason.

As a side note, out of the hundreds of characters I have seen played by dozens of players, I can count on one hand (and still have fingers left) the times where a player has played an opposite gender character in a manner that was not stereotyped, excessively expressive of their gender (for no good reason), or was just an expression of the players dislike of the gender.


* Actually, I don't think I have ever seen anyone do this in all the years I have been playing.
 

I find it incredibly amusing that anyone would rule against someone playing an opposite gender. So, you are saying you cannot play that which you are not IRL. Am I wrong or has the premise of ROLE PLAYING been completely lost on you?
 



I have not allowed "cross-gendered" role-playing in the past. Whether I enforce that rule for my next game remains to be seen.

In any event, there is nothing wrong with your imposing that limitation on your players. If they really object to it they can always vote with their feet.
 

Lasher Dragon said:
I find it incredibly amusing that anyone would rule against someone playing an opposite gender. So, you are saying you cannot play that which you are not IRL. Am I wrong or has the premise of ROLE PLAYING been completely lost on you?
Well, I know that if I personally had meant that I would have typed that. If that were the case everyone would have to play humans born in the latter part of the 20th century.

No, the premise and concept of role-playing is not lost on me. I won't allow people to start playing a campaign as a character of the opposite gender. I also won't allow players to play a serial killer, or a paedophile, or necrophiliac. The first (temporary) restriction is based almost exclusively out of laziness on my part. The latter restrictions (permanent) are because I find running games for that sort of character to be repugnant.
 

Lasher Dragon said:
I find it incredibly amusing that anyone would rule against someone playing an opposite gender. So, you are saying you cannot play that which you are not IRL. Am I wrong or has the premise of ROLE PLAYING been completely lost on you?

You are wrong. Next vacuous question.
 

As a GM, I would allow any of my players to play whatever gender they like. It just so happens that 95% of the time, they play their own gender. The ones most likely to play the opposite gender are the same ones with the most GMing experience.

Coincidence? Probably not. In fact, I believe that GMing and having to think about motivations, objectives, and personalities from many points of view during a game makes someone an excellent roleplayer, and I also believe it will be the ones with the GMing experience that are most capable of playing the opposite gender well.

I wouldn't disallow anyone from playing the opposite gender unless I had good reason to believe it would either be done poorly or for the wrong reasons. Otherwise, it's do as you please.
 

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