When did WotC D&D "Jump the Shark"?

[Stormonu]

Thinking about it, I don't think WotC jumped the shark.

I think the shark is chasing WotC though, and threatening to devour the D&D department.

 

[Hussar]

This is just bizarre.

Have I EVER pointed at the free downloads of the Pathfinder beta as my evidence?

You are going back to the old stand by Hussar tactic and invented a really stupid straw man example and declaring that to be the point someone else has made despite there being zero truth to that claim.

If you want to actually talk about what I said, please do.

Just as one off the cuff example, that is not on the list of things I have actually cited, do you remember the photos of lines at the Paizo 2009 GenCon booth? Do you think those people were there for free downloads? Was there a similar line at the OSRIC booth?

And no, I don't think that GenCon 2009 proves the SLIGHTEST thing about split markets or how any game is doing today. That is not in any way my point. But it does demonstrate how out of touch your pointless claim about free downloads is.

Wow, talk about totally missing the point.

I freely admitted that what I was saying was voodoo logic. That was the entire point of that little exercise. I took a piece of information from one place, stripped away any context, then added in another piece of information, also stripped of any context, and then came to a conclusion.

Of course the conclusion is utterly bogus.

THAT'S THE POINT!

Which is precisely what you have done with your repeated claims that there is a deep divide in the fanbase. You've taken pieces of information, stripped of context and then claimed that they are evidence to support your idea when in fact, they're mostly isolated factoids that could easily have a number of different interpretations and causes.

That's the point I was making there.

 

[Raven Crowking]

I freely admitted that what I was saying was voodoo logic. That was the entire point of that little exercise.

 

[Jeffrey]

Long thread.

Hey!

Anyone need a hobby?

I know of this great little game where you pretend to be elves and dwarves and go exploring dungeons and best of all -- it's all in your MIND!

 

[Aeolius]

Venting your spleen is no way to continue a conversation.

A venting spleen will draw sharks for sure...
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