When the GM gips you (a rant)


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papakee said:
A couple of options

a. Ask the NPC in character for some Gold to raise dead the 3rd level allies he killed ... this could lead to some interesting roleplay and may explain some things

Well, the OP said this took place in the Iron Kingdoms settings. If it isn't heavily houseruled, access to that sort of magic is very difficult to find.
 

Or the DMPC thing could also be setting up a Gandalf/Dumbledore situation: "Look how badass Caster X is! We're lucky we have him! Oh no, he's gone! What do we do against Bad Guy Y now?"
 

If it were my game, shooting the barrels would have worked.... that said...

I don't see this as showboating, or whatever derogatory term folks are using to describe the incident. The encounter contained a higher level NPC. Not mince words, so what?

This is a problem if it happens on a regular basis. But I don't see how a single instance where the PC's are outclassed by an NPC constitutes PC disenfranchisement.

I can think of plenty of legitimate uses for the scenario described. Most of them involve foreshadowing...

All I can really tell from the OP is that the he doesn't trust the DM much, or at least is finding it difficult to give him the benefit of the doubt.

Which begs the question; "Why are you playing in that campaign?".
 


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My first question is how did you know it was a 9 die fireball - as a DM I would require at the LEAST a spellcheck roll to determine how powerfull the fireball was and would not roll it out in the open. Sounds to me like the DM was just showing off....lame.

9th level spellcaster with 3rd level fighters...that's like a 9th grader playing football with a bunch of 3rd graders. OH WOW MR DM'S YOUR PC'S ARE TEH AWESOMEST!

I seriously would have killed him and taken his stuff. Get all the fighters on him then either trip or grapple till he's down/grabbed and have everyone else beat the crap out of him. If you die, oh well no harm lost because you are probably going to want to leave the campaign anyway.

Now if the DM is using him as a plot device, why have him blow up the barrels? What's the point of that? That to me is just rubbing it in the PC's face that you are in charge, and all their good ideas are there to further you own meglomaniacal goals.
 
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Whizbang Dustyboots said:
Or the DMPC thing could also be setting up a Gandalf/Dumbledore situation: "Look how badass Caster X is! We're lucky we have him! Oh no, he's gone! What do we do against Bad Guy Y now?"
Possible. That's not the most interesting plot... but it's a nice plot. Therefore I think the people who have said "Stick a bit to the game" are right... and keep us updated, how it evolves?
 

Mallus said:
If it were my game, shooting the barrels would have worked.... that said...

I don't see this as showboating, or whatever derogatory term folks are using to describe the incident. The encounter contained a higher level NPC. Not mince words, so what?

This is a problem if it happens on a regular basis. But I don't see how a single instance where the PC's are outclassed by an NPC constitutes PC disenfranchisement.

I can think of plenty of legitimate uses for the scenario described. Most of them involve foreshadowing...

All I can really tell from the OP is that the he doesn't trust the DM much, or at least is finding it difficult to give him the benefit of the doubt.

Which begs the question; "Why are you playing in that campaign?".



Less reason, more catharsis!!!
 

Xanterith said:
My first question is how did you know it was a 9 die fireball - as a DM I would require at the LEAST a spellcheck roll to determine how powerfull the fireball was and would not roll it out in the open.

If the GM is all about showing off his cool GMPC then that's probably exactly what he did (does)...so that everyone can see how damn "cool" his GMPC's fireballs are.
 

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