When the GM gips you (a rant)

[Storyteller01]

A couple of options

a. Ask the NPC in character for some Gold to raise dead the 3rd level allies he killed ... this could lead to some interesting roleplay and may explain some things

b. Since he is not a PC, diplomacy would work on him, right? Maybe change him to 'friendly' to the party

We're playing IK, so that's not an option. The DM's comment after blowing him up: 'Well, the Gunmage didn't like him anyway...'.

Now, in his defense, he may have forgetten that their were characters in melee. Darkness had also been cast (sp ability of some of the undead, but as far as anyone knows the barrels weren't in the area when they were shot at). But the fireball seems extreme when the monk took out 4 in a round via AoO's.

If hitting barrels will be fudged, its a good bet Diplomacy checks will be fudged too.

 

[Storyteller01]

Which begs the question; "Why are you playing in that campaign?".

I'm the usual DM, as well as student and working graveyard shifts. Don't have many options.

But you're right. Let's see where this goes. Thanks for listening though.

 

[Jim Hague]

We're playing IK, so that's not an option. The DM's comment after blowing him up: 'Well, the Gunmage didn't like him anyway...'.

Now, in his defense, he may have forgetten that their were characters in melee. Darkness had also been cast (sp ability of some of the undead, but as far as anyone knows the barrels weren't in the area when they were shot at). But the fireball seems extreme when the monk took out 4 in a round via AoO's.

If hitting barrels will be fudged, its a good bet Diplomacy checks will be fudged too.

So...what part of the IK are you guys in, and why isn't the town guard calling on the gunmage for detonating a bomb in the middle of a city? I'd think that kind of act would bring down a guard unit backed by a warjack or two to deal with the offender...

 

[Storyteller01]

So...what part of the IK are you guys in, and why isn't the town guard calling on the gunmage for detonating a bomb in the middle of a city? I'd think that kind of act would bring down a guard unit backed by a warjack or two to deal with the offender...

Khador, with everyone being a member or mercenary for the Khadoran military. We played in a village when the wizard started showing up. Military showed up but didn't do anything to the players, which tends to mitigate the constabulary.

Part of it may also have been how we deal with the mage. He was bouncing around in the forest with three spellcasting undead (an IK undead from the Monsternomican). I wasn't too happy after the fact, shots were missing this guy due to cover while he picked us off with magic missle, so I said 'Get the villagers out here. Burn the forest'. This was done, with the impending fire hazards handwaved as effectively controlled by the 300+ people. Most folk don't like undead OR magicians, so it may have been seen as a necessary evil.

 

[Jim Hague]

Khador, with everyone being a member or mercenary for the Khadoran military. We played in a village when the wizard started showing up. Military showed up but didn't do anything to the players, which tends to mitigate the constabulary.

Part of it may also have been how we deal with the mage. He was bouncing around in the forest with three spellcasting undead (an IK undead from the Monsternomican). I wasn't to happy after the fact, so i said 'Get the villagers out here. Burn the forest.' This was done, with the impending fire hazards handwaved as effectively controlled by the 300+ people.

Skarlocks, IIRC? Yeesh. Still, the gunmage effectively did detonate a bomb in a civilain area, something the military won't like - even in Khador, they have more important things to worry on than dealing with a peasant uprising. It still sounds like the GM threw their pet NPC in there to rob the party of the opportunity to be cool. Which isn't cool at all.

 

[Storyteller01]

Skarlocks, IIRC? Yeesh. Still, the gunmage effectively did detonate a bomb in a civilain area, something the military won't like - even in Khador, they have more important things to worry on than dealing with a peasant uprising. It still sounds like the GM threw their pet NPC in there to rob the party of the opportunity to be cool. Which isn't cool at all.

I believe so. I'm not up to date on much in IK except the base mechanics. Tends to help maintain the suspension of disbelief. I'm sure the Dm would also appreciate it if I didn't know how to kill every critter in the book with ease.

 

[Jim Hague]

I believe so. I'm not up to date on much in IK except the base mechanics. Tends to help maintain the suspension of disbelief. I'm sure the Dm would also appreciate it if I didn't know how to kill every critter in the book with ease.

Hah, all I remember about them is that they're undead, have funky runes and cast spells. But Khador-as-Mythic-Russia analog should still be pretty intolerant of Cryxian undead kicking around...and if I'm reading that right, with some guy that blew up part of the town...

 

[Wil]

I have to ask why they didn't start the barrels rolling and hit them when they were two freaking feet away. Then the barrels would burn while they were rolling (they won't explode) and, if done properly, might hit something and burst open, spraying everything nearby with burning liquid. It seems like too good of a stunt to have completely fail just because the DM didn't like it.