D&D Movie/TV Where is all of the Honor Among Thieves D&D stuff, WotC?

Whizbang Dustyboots

100% that gnome
With today's revelation that Keys from the Golden Vault is apparently a generic set of adventures set in Generica (or the Forgotten Realms, we'll see), I go back to my former stance of "wait, they're about to release a movie with no tie-in game products, really?"

At the very least, they should have commissioned a set of artwork to rebrand Stormwreck Isle with the not-appearing-in-this-adventure movie characters instead of the not-appearing-in-this-adventure cartoon characters. If the movie was a dog in rough cut back in the fall, they could have opted out, but the movie doesn't look like a dog.

I'd also have a set of polyhedrals for each character in a different color along with the game stats for each character included with that set.

And, finally, once the movie is out and well-liked, I'd have -- on D&D Beyond, at a minimum -- those character sheets along with adventures walking everyone through the movie, the two prequel novels and prequel comic book.

If your brand is undermonetized, where is all of the no-brainer Honor Among Thieves D&D content? (And yes, I also would have wanted this stuff for the original D&D movie and was sad when WotC hid all of the Izmeer content that was briefly on their site.)

What the heck, WotC?
 
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With today's revelation that Keys from the Golden Vault is apparently a generic set of adventures set in Generica (or the Forgotten Realms, we'll see), I go back to my former stance of "wait, they're about to release a movie with no tie-in game products, really?"

At the very least, they should have commissioned a set of artwork to rebrand Stormwreck Isle with the not-appearing-in-this-adventure movie characters instead of the not-appearing-in-this-adventure cartoon characters. If the movie was a dog in rough cut back in the fall, they could have opted out, but the movie doesn't look like a dog.

I'd also have a set of polyhedrals for each character in a different color along with the game stats for each character included with that set.

And, finally, once the movie is out and well-liked, I'd have -- on D&D Beyond, at a minimum -- those character sheets along with adventures walking everyone through the movie, the two prequel novels and prequel comic book.

If your brand is undermonetized, where is all of the non-brainer Honor Among Thieves D&D content? (And yes, I also would have wanted this stuff for the original D&D movie and was sad when WotC hid all of the Izmeer content that was briefly on their site.)

What the heck, WotC?
As I said in that thread, how do we know if there are no tie-ins with the movie? We just have a small blurb. The characters from the movie might appear and might even have stats. The Golden Vault organization might appear in the movie. Some of the adventures might be the same locations as in the movie. You're extrapolating some big assumptions from just a couple of paragraphs.
 

Whizbang Dustyboots

100% that gnome
As I said in that thread, how do we know if there are no tie-ins with the movie? We just have a small blurb.
Because that blurb is to convince retailers to stock the book. "Hey, this is a tie-in for a big movie" is the kind of thing you'd lead with, to say nothing of putting the characters on at least one of the two covers.

I know the OGL mess has made it clear that WotC has some PR issues, but this is Marketing 101. At the very least, their retail sales team would have come back and asked why there weren't any obvious indicators about the movie connections if that's what this book is intended as.

Might there be some locations that carry over? Sure. Apparently the frozen prison from Rime of the Frostmaiden is in the movie and was developed for the movie first, but I don't think we can reasonably see Rime as a movie tie-in product unless, say, they wanted to put out either an alternate cover or a sticker or something showing the "AS SEEN IN THE HIT MOTION PICTURE" prison on the book.
 



Whizbang Dustyboots

100% that gnome
I think they got action figures coming out...
Oh, everything that's not under the direct control of WotC is happening. I expect we'll get the soundtrack track listing any day now.

It's just that the actual D&D stuff supporting a D&D movie, which would be the responsibility of the D&D folks in the room, is mysteriously AWOL.

I am not one of the people who was the most upset about the "undermonitized" stuff, but holy crap, it's hard to say that Hasbro might not have a point there.
 

JAMUMU

go, hunt. kill haribos.
I was in a bookstore today and looked to see how many copies of the D&D starter set they had in (it usually numbers 1d6+1), but all they had was some ugly looking D&D board game with sub-heroquest production values. The board game was not a movie tie in board game. Maybe they're holding off for a blitz nearer the time?
 

Whizbang Dustyboots

100% that gnome
I was in a bookstore today and looked to see how many copies of the D&D starter set they had in (it usually numbers 1d6+1), but all they had was some ugly looking D&D board game with sub-heroquest production values. The board game was not a movie tie in board game. Maybe they're holding off for a blitz nearer the time?
They've got to tell retailers, though, if they're going to get stocked. That's what the Golden Vault "announcement" today was.

If there are more tie-ins, they're running out of time to have them on store shelves.

In an ideal world, people are going to come out of the movie jazzed and want to drive to Target, Barnes & Noble and their FLGS/comic shop and buy something with the cast on the front cover. Right now, it looks like that thing might be the tie-in novels, comic book and art book but not anything to actually get people to play actual D&D.

We are in a scenario where, after people leave a movie called Dungeons & Dragons, the tie-in starter set they might pick up off the shelves will be branded with Rick & Morty or Stranger Things.
 




I am not one of the people who was the most upset about the "undermonitized" stuff, but holy crap, it's hard to say that Hasbro might not have a point there.
I mean most of us around here would, I'm sure, freaking leap at the right kind of monetization. Make a good movie with tie ins to the game! Make a t.v. show about beloved D&D properties, or even invent new ones! You're Hasbro for chrissakes, make action figures and D&D-Nerf swords and spell-effects! Sell plush owlbears! Funko Pops, for some unknowable reason, exist!

All the above sales, however, I would describe as additive to the community / culture we enjoy around D&D, rather than trying to radically restructure it.
 


Undrave

Hero
Oh, everything that's not under the direct control of WotC is happening. I expect we'll get the soundtrack track listing any day now.

It's just that the actual D&D stuff supporting a D&D movie, which would be the responsibility of the D&D folks in the room, is mysteriously AWOL.

I am not one of the people who was the most upset about the "undermonitized" stuff, but holy crap, it's hard to say that Hasbro might not have a point there.
No no I agree. Why isn't there a movie themed starter set? Is it some convoluted Hollywood rights thing where they have to pay royalties for their own brand's movie elements?!

I would assume Hasbro already lisenced the cast's likeness to do some of those 3D printed headsculpts they put on collector figures now so why not bundle rights to put their likeness on a DnD product?

Funko Pops, for some unknowable reason, exist!
Called that because they're made by Funko the company.
 

Dire Bare

Legend
I mean most of us around here would, I'm sure, freaking leap at the right kind of monetization. Make a good movie with tie ins to the game! Make a t.v. show about beloved D&D properties, or even invent new ones! You're Hasbro for chrissakes, make action figures and D&D-Nerf swords and spell-effects! Sell plush owlbears! Funko Pops, for some unknowable reason, exist!

All the above sales, however, I would describe as additive to the community / culture we enjoy around D&D, rather than trying to radically restructure it.
@Whizbang Dustyboots is, of course, specifically looking for D&D game movie tie-ins, not Hasbro toy movie tie-ins.

But Hasbro is releasing action figures, and D&D nerf guns (they are weird looking), and the new transformer-dice. There are also several novel, comic, and trade book tie-ins scheduled for later this year.

There are already a lot of D&D plushies and Funko Pops, and I do expect more centered specifically around the movie characters.
 




Oh, everything that's not under the direct control of WotC is happening. I expect we'll get the soundtrack track listing any day now.

It's just that the actual D&D stuff supporting a D&D movie, which would be the responsibility of the D&D folks in the room, is mysteriously AWOL.

I am not one of the people who was the most upset about the "undermonitized" stuff, but holy crap, it's hard to say that Hasbro might not have a point there.

That seems like Hasbro has a lack of faith in the D&D studio, not the movie, if its getting all the merch except the D&D team (although I'm pretty sure a MtG Secret Lair for the movie is going to come out, hopefully it will have new cards and not just cosmetically changed reprints like the Warhammer 40,000k secret lairs got stuck with).

I will note that out side of a possible cameo in Golden Keys (like damn that was the least exciting blurb for a hard cover ever), that the most likely tie in product for the movie would be Edgin's Guide to the Forgotten Realms (One D&D Campaign Setting Book), with little post-it comments from Edgin the Bard with quips from Holga or someone else.

I mean between various 5e hard covers, the Drow changes being covered hy RA Salvator novels, the upcoming movie + tie in novels (including a new Lord of Neverwinter), and a new edition with tradition being FR gets a setting book and Ray Winningers hint of a setting revisit for 2024, and fans of FR begging for years for stuff outside getting better covered then what was in the SCAG this could be the prime book to feature the movie characters on the cover and in the name.
 


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