Where is the rule for reduction of speed for an encumbered mount?

[bigdndfan]

I can't find it anywhere.

My light warhorse has more than 230 lbs on him. He could go 60 normally. Where is the rule?

Table 9:2 of PHB does have speed reduction for encumbrance, but it only gives figures for creatures with base speed of 20 and 30 feet.

The MM under the description of speed says there is a parenthetical if the armor reduces the creature's speed, but there is nothing about encumbrance.

Is there no reduction, if so that would be really odd.

 

[Number47]

PHB 143

They have big, big charts that cover it.

 

[Spatzimaus]

Someone else will have to give the exact support, but I think it's been clarified a few times that encumbered speed is 2/3 base speed, rounded up to the nearest 5' (one of the few places you round up); ditto for dropping a size category. So, in this case, the horse would drop from 60' to 40'. If I'm wrong I'm sure someone will correct me.

If you don't want to do the math, just figure what the unencumbered speed is, find a level of Monk that goes that speed, then look at the "Small Monk Movement Rate" table in the PHB to see your new speed.

 

[bigdndfan]

PHB 143

They have big, big charts that cover it.

I've look on page 143 and I just looked at it again and I do not see that.

Do you mean p. 142 Table 9:2 Carrying Loads? They only cover creatures with base speed of 20 and 30 (I.E. PCs)



Spatzimaus , 2/3 speed you think for medium encumberance? How about heavy?

Thank you both.

 

[CRGreathouse]

I've look on page 143 and I just looked at it again and I do not see that.

Do you mean p. 142 Table 9:2 Carrying Loads? They only cover creatures with base speed of 20 and 30 (I.E. PCs)



Spatzimaus , 2/3 speed you think for medium encumberance? How about heavy?

Thank you both.

I don't have a PH handy, but there is a chart for this in the PH. It's in chapter 7, after the common equipment chart (torch, clothing, food, etc.), on the right side of the (next?) page.

 

[kreynolds]

I don't have a PH handy, but there is a chart for this in the PH. It's in chapter 7, after the common equipment chart (torch, clothing, food, etc.), on the right side of the (next?) page.

There's a movement chart on page 113 for the effects of barding, but that's the only thing I've found after a cursory glance.

 

[bigdndfan]

Actually its on p.55 of the FAQ.


Thanks all.

 

[Wolf72]

There's a movement chart on page 113 for the effects of barding, but that's the only thing I've found after a cursory glance.

wouldn't medium armor be the same movement as a medium load? (same for heavy armor and heavy load?)

 

[Brekki]

For movement 5 to 100, see the Dnd-Faq, page 55

http://www.wizards.com/dnd/article.asp?x=dnd/er/er20020922a

You can get all speed by just adding the speeds of slower creatures. If your creature has movement 50, just add the movements from a 20 movement creature and a 30 movement creature, since those are in the PHB.

 

[Spatzimaus]

The movement effects for being overloaded are the same as for wearing armor, although the closest I can come to proof is page 141 (Carrying Capacity), second column:

"Like armor, your load gives you a maximum Dexterity bonus to AC, a check penalty (which works like an armor check penalty), speed, and run factor, as shown on Table 9-2. Carrying a light load does not encumber a character.
If you are wearing armor, use the worse figure (from armor or from weight) for each category. Do not stack the penalties."

On p.142 is a table of the penalties for medium/heavy load. Medium load is similar to a Breastplate (but slightly less Armor Check Penalty), Heavy load is similar to Banded/Full Plate. The important part is, the movements for medium/heavy load are identical to the movements for medium/heavy armor, for players moving 20' or 30'.

So, since Barding appears to be the standard 2/3 speed (table, p.114) that player armors give, and the encumbrance movement penalties on p.142 seem to be identical to medium/heavy armor, I'd say that a horse carrying a medium load goes 40' and can run x4, while one carrying a heavy load goes 40' and can run x3.