D&D 4E Where was 4e headed before it was canned?

[Parmandur]

I have seen a video of a fellow doing snap shot barrages of 10 arrows by someone who isn't legendary.

Someone who is doing that is, in fact, legendary. The normal rate of fire by trained archers is more like 6 a minute, a bit less than the ~40 volleys in a minute from the high level Fighter.

 

[Parmandur]

And I call BS on there not being an obligation to limit what can be improvised when the game features characters paying resources to perform the action.

You can call BS, but that's how the game works: sure, the BM gets a good consistent option to disarm does, bit others can disarm, too. With rolls, using their actions instead of attacking, etc. Usually attacking will be the optimal choice, to kill.

 

[Garthanos]

If I was making a Highlander genre game with tropes from the movies and tv series I might start by making disarming much easier than is realistic. I think I would need to make changes on the battlemaster ability.

 

[Garthanos]

Someone who is doing that is, in fact, legendary

They were snapshots ie short draw and its a light bow, which would indeed be reduced damage and similar things he keeps the arrows in the hand the bow is in - he is definitely skilled but he isn't a figure like Hiawatha or even the historic characters who spent huge amounts of time perfecting their ability, he patterned the style after a historic one. It is impressive and much more accurate than I would have guessed. His fast draw competitors are more comparable to legolas in the movie.

 

[Garthanos]

You can call BS, but that's how the game works: sure, the BM gets a good consistent option to disarm does, bit others can disarm, too.

Can and will be inferior consistently just as you made the attempt by the acrobat a really unlikely ie inferior thing because no resources.

 

[Parmandur]

They were snapshots ie short draw and its a light bow, which would indeed be reduced damage and similar things he keeps the arrows in the hand the bow is in - he is definitely skilled but he isn't a figure like Hiawatha or even the historic characters who spent huge amounts of time perfecting their ability, he patterned the style after a historic one. It is impressive and much more accurate than I would have guessed. His fast draw competitors are more comparable to legolas in the movie.

I've done archery: to do that, he spent huge amounts of time to perfect his technique.

 

[Parmandur]

Can and will be inferior consistently just as you made the attempt by the acrobat a really unlikely ie inferior thing because no resources.

Yet you can try, and sometimes that will save the day.

 

[Garthanos]

I've done archery: to do that, he spent huge amounts of time to perfect his technique.

Approximately 2 years was his claim. He was already doing archery so its not like it was a fresh attempt... I do archery too and yes it's pretty impressive.

 

[pemerton]

Nope, because most of the target audience was in diapers when 3.x was released: I'm an old D&D player now, and I wasn't born when BECMI was released. Yet, that is the playstyle that persisted through TSR and WotC shenanigans, and now dominates among whipper-snappers who at on web cameras.

I played a lot of AD&D in the 90s, and saw a lot more being played - among friends, at clubs, at conventions. Very little of it - almost none - looked like Moldvay Basic/Cook and Marsh Expert. That is to say, almost no one was playing skilled-play dungeon crawls or hex-crawls. They were playing scenario/"quest"-oriented games of the sort that seem (to me) to be typical in accounts of 5e play.

 

[Garthanos]

(and 2 years perfecting an archery technique is not exactly slacker I he just considered it nothing compared to the guys who were training from age 8)