Which alignment would kill the frenzied berserker in his sleep? Choose all that apply

[Victim]

All of them. Individuals with the appropriate skills and disposition could likely find non lethal ways to contain the beserker's wrath, but not everyone would do so. Most FBs are bombs waiting to go off anyway - even if you have working plans for dealing with the risks, what happens when the group isn't there? If Grunk is out drinking, you don't want him to massacre a town because a brawl started.

 

[Storyteller01]

Any of the evils (obviously), CN, and MAYBE N. LG would call the local obluiette while he sleeps, LN would most likely do the same, or at least go for a public execution. A neutral druid would put him out in a forest and let nature take its course (he calms down or it kills him). CG might if there were no other options, but odds are he'd take him face to face (albiet HUGELY outnumbered). Dying the way he lived and all that.

You might be able to rationalize it for any alignment, but you can't if you want to STAY that alignment after the fact. Good paladins and clerics also have to worry about whether the DM will take their power (why didn't you just X?).

We can argue that we put animals down if they harm each other or themselves, but how many asylums do we have filled with these folks?

 

[Celebrim]

Unless we know why and what the alternatives are, the correct answer is "all of them".

But let's change the question up a bit. Which alignment would prefer give the option to kill the Frenzied Beserker in his sleep?

For me, the answer to that question is nuetral, so I voted "neutral". All the other alignments would to some extent prefer the frenzied beserker to know who killed him - whether 'the state' or an individual - and why. The evil alignments prefer the victim to be awake so that they can relish thier triumph. The good alignments prefer the victim to be awake so that they don't. But the Neutral doesn't care; problem - whatever it is - solved.

 

[frankthedm]

An Oubliette? I envision lawful good beings giving someone a merciful end long before being a part of someone being thrown into one of those hell-holes. A lifetime of miserable loneliness or condemning the other prisoners to death by his hands? And if he ever gets out, those poor guards.

Oubliette
ou•bli•ette (ū'blē-ĕt')
n.
A dungeon with a trapdoor in the ceiling as its only means of entrance or exit.

[French, from oublier, to forget, from Old French oblider, from Vulgar Latin *oblītāre, from Latin oblītus, past participle of oblīvīscī.]

We can argue that we put animals down if they harm each other or themselves, but how many asylums do we have filled with these folks?

The people in the asylums did not choose to become insane.

 

[Storyteller01]

Tell that to the ones that actively refuse to take their medication. Or those who are deranged due to chemical use (LSD ovrdose can do some nasty things to the brain). Some actually prefer the voices in their head to dealing with the real world.

As for what the paladin does, he may just as easily chose to let him live, hoping he'll recover. Regardless, he's less likely to kill him in his sleep. Given that lawful good follows the law, why is he less likely to send him to an asylum when the law warrants it? At the very least, he'd be taken into custody allowing the jugde to well, ... jugde.

Killing someone in their sleep isn't justified by all alignments, it's justified by players that don't want to deal with it.

My apologies for spelling.

 

[Greylock]

I voted all excepting NG. Looks like I am not alone.

[My reasoning being, the NG char would most likely just leave the party.]

 

[Sejs]

(and ignore the very significant threat he poses to everyone else )


Voted for all alignments.

Frenzied Berzerkers are tarrasques in training. Either you take 'em out for your own personal safety, or you take 'em out for the safety of everyone as a whole.

 

[frankthedm]

Tell that to the ones that actively refuse to take their medication.

As for what the paladin does, he may just as easily chose to let him live, hoping he'll recover. Regardless, he's less likely to kill him in his sleep.

My apologies for spelling.

The dope they give those poor souls is done more to ease the staff's troubles from what i saw when my grandma was at one and besides, being insane means you no longer are making choices in the best intrest of yourself or others.

Was not harping on the spelling, i just wanted everyone to know why oubliettes don't fit my idea of Lawful good [unless the prisoner can not be contained by death / afterlife].

 

[Storyteller01]

Not talking about the meds used in house, I'm talking those that actively refuse to take meds that make them functional in the real world (would keep them out of the asylum). To some, the deadening effect of the drug is worse than the voices. I currently room with someone who takes meds against hallucinations. She prefers the meds, but she knows several who don't.

I guess it depends on how it's played and one's view of lawful good.

 

[Grymar]

All except Neutral Evil.

Neutral Evil will get someone else to do it for him.