Which is better balanced?

Which is better balanced?

  • Forgotten Realms books

    Votes: 38 44.2%
  • Bastion Press books

    Votes: 15 17.4%
  • Both suck

    Votes: 23 26.7%
  • Both Rock!

    Votes: 10 11.6%

  • Poll closed .

Sledge

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Poll as requested. Which is better balanced in regards to d20 gaming. Forgotten Realms books or Bastion Press books?
 

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My vote is, of course, for the FRCS.

Bastion Press is good at drawing monsters that look like skinned cats, but not really good at much else .... :D
 
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Maybe, you should focus that poll a little bit? It's not completely clear what you are after.

Are you looking for generic supplements for your D&D game? In this case, I would be wary of 'Magic of Faerun', because the spells are often a bit overpowered compared to standard D&D. Some Bastion press books have also balance problems (in both directions), but there are several very good general supplements, like 'Spells & Magic' or 'Airships'.

If your question targets the setting, the Bastion setting is called 'Oathbound', and you'd probably mention that in your poll. The Oathbound setting has a higher power level compared to standard D&D. As it's not meant to be mixed with a, let's say, Greyhawk game other than used consecutively, balance questions hardly come up. If you ask for the internal balance of the Oathbound campaign book, you might want to have a look at the new 'Wildwood' book first, which is a standalone setting book and seems to have overhauled the elements (e.g., prestige races) which had been a bit wonky before.


The Thayan Menace said:
My vote is, of course, for the FRCS.

Bastion Press is good at drawing monsters that look like skinned cats, but not really good at much else .... :D

While I obviously disagree with your last statement (see above), the days of the sole Todd Morasch style as far as art goes are long gone. :)
 


The Thayan Menace said:
He's still their star artist I believe; if you can call him that.

"Meow ...." :)
You are of course entitled to not liking his style (I'm not particularly fond of many of his pieces myself). Another question is whether his art is suited for a setting book, where it's meant to illustrate the text and help the reader with imagining the setting elements, a task, where his illustrations often fail. On the other hand, there are some very expressive pieces in those books, and from a purely artistic point of view, they are very good. I'd never put those images in a RPG book, though. Many people shared this view, and that's why the general appearance of the Bastion books changed.

I have no idea why they didn't get rid of that ugly Oathbound-style border, though. Its style often clashes with the other illustrations.
 

The Thayan Menace said:
He's still their star artist I believe; if you can call him that.

"Meow ...." :)

Actually, can you point to the latest book to have a *new* piece of Todd's artwork in it (not recycled art like in Arms & Armor 3.5) let alone have him as the featured artist? I'd have to do a search, but I'm pretty darned sure it's been a couple years at least.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but that horse you are beating died quite a while ago.
 

I find your question terribly vague. Both of those lines have a great many books. I'll just say I would neither allow a disjoiner or an incantatrix in my game. ;)

But I'd play Wildwood or Oathbound before FR... but that's not for balance reasons. :)
 

Putting a Dead Horse Out to Pasture

Zjelani said:
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but that horse you are beating died quite a while ago.
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"No more skinned cats, Wilbur?"

That's really too bad .... :D

I haven't checked out Bastion since Spells & Magic came out; do they actually have decent artists now?
 



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