Which monsters do you think will be in MM1?

Khuxan said:
One monster won't be in MM 1. There are two yuan-ti in DoD. Therefore, the yuan-ti will be in the MM 1.

Umm... just because there's two different minis doesn't mean it's two different monsters. One monster, two sculpts. In theory, the yuan-ti may not be in MM1, despite having two sculpts in DoD.

Those that think the yuan-ti might not make it believe that it is because the yuan-ti have psionic powers, and they feel that psionics will be handled in PHB2, with psionic monsters in MM2. They may have a point.

I haven't looked at all the monsters in DoD with an eye towards guessing which monster won't be in MM1, so I really can't give my own opinion. YMMV.

As an aside, which monster from DoD do you guys think will NOT be in MM1? I ask that in this thread, because the rest of them will be in MM1, and that addresses the thread's topic.

With Regards,
Flynn
 

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Flynn said:
Umm... just because there's two different minis doesn't mean it's two different monsters. One monster, two sculpts. In theory, the yuan-ti may not be in MM1, despite having two sculpts in DoD.

In addition, all but one of the miniatures in this set will appear in the 4th Edition Monster Manual.

I was ambiguous when I said "monster", not "miniature". This quote confirms that the yuan-ti will be in MM1.

To answer your other question, my guess is: Rot Scarab Swarm, Large Fire Elemental, Demonweb Swarm or Angel of Vengeance.

The swarms because they could have been in the set for other reasons, the fire elemental because as I understand they've changed elementals, and the angel of vengeance because some people think it's an unused Dreamblade sculpt.
 



Khuxan said:
I was ambiguous when I said "monster", not "miniature". This quote confirms that the yuan-ti will be in MM1.

My apologies, then. I misremembered the quote myself, and should have checked before posting. Thanks for letting me know. :)

Enjoy,
Flynn
 

All of the above


Humanoids, Dragons, Elementals (Archons) and Fiends will make it is some sense. They will be also in MM2, 3,4 then in MM 5e and so on....


Popularity vs Use vs profitbility
 

Shadar-Kai and Shadow Mastiffs are in, and I expect a lot of shadow-based monsters, so they can flesh out the Shadowfell.

I expect Death Giants in MM1 for the same reason.
 


Flynn said:
My apologies, then. I misremembered the quote myself, and should have checked before posting. Thanks for letting me know. :)

No problem.

One thing that dawned on me is that the yuan-ti in DoD aren't ones we've seen before, and they don't appear to be psionics-based. Perhaps they've created new yuan-ti for the MM1 and are saving the traditionally psionic ones for the PsiH.
 

We'll see more lower level challenges IMO. However the classics will be there.

Beholders
Devils
Demons
Dragons
Gnome
Shifter
Warforged
Orcs
all the goblinoids
Wyverns
Skeletons
Ghouls
Zombies
Vampires
Werewolves
Mind Flayers
Some giants (hill especially)
Gelatinous Cubes

Can't think of any more right now
 

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