Which saving throw thwarts death?

[Katuchan]

Surely it's a skill challence? Intelligence if you are playing chess, charisma if you're playing Cripple Mr Onion.

Haha! You know, I do have the rules for Cripple Mr Onion around here somewhere...

Here's a tip for learning 4e: Forget everything you know about D&D. It'll make it a lot easier.

Apparently so! While I can of course appreciate them wanting to be easy-to-learn for those just joining us, I do tend to protest companies making their products "user friendly" (coughWindowscough). It makes it so much harder for us to find things. If we learned it the hard way, so can they! Why, in my day we had to play D&D uphill both ways, using rocks instead of dice!

Er, sorry, tangent. The tough part is that I'm DMing a 4e campaign this fall, while at the same time playing in my sister's 3.5 campaign. Fun will certainly be had.

 

[DracoSuave]

You kids have it easy! In my day I had to learn how to use Rules Cyclopedia weapon mastery rules while juggling THAC0s and Saving Throws for AD&D2nd, while playing a psionic character in not just 1st edition, not just 2nd edition, but in Dark Sun Revised as well!

 

[firesnakearies]

You kids have it easy! In my day I had to learn how to use Rules Cyclopedia weapon mastery rules while juggling THAC0s and Saving Throws for AD&D2nd, while playing a psionic character in not just 1st edition, not just 2nd edition, but in Dark Sun Revised as well!

THAC0 was . . . no good. I think I liked it better when we had a list of different ACs across your character sheet and you wrote the number you needed to roll to hit that AC in a box beneath each one. Heh.

That, and the super-secret hidden saving throw chart which was impossible to find in the 2nd edition PHB/DMG, whichever one it was lurking in....

 

[DracoSuave]

That, and the super-secret hidden saving throw chart which was impossible to find in the 2nd edition PHB/DMG, whichever one it was lurking in....

Both. It was hiding in both, but still.... yeah.