White Wolf - Ending of World of Darkness

[Umbran]

Which is a trend they started with Exalted.

*shrug*. I first saw the pattern in the Dark Ages line. I've never so much as looked at teh front cover of an Exalted book.

What I've been wondering since seeing the names for the new books is how separate the new WoD will be from the old WoD.

The scuttlebutt I hear says the answer to that is "very different". You expect them to keep the names so that they get to get some leverage off of the old product identities. Yes, it's playing a vampire, or a werewolf, or a magus, because that's what their players want to see. But don't count on much more being the same. A great many sacred cows are getting tossed out.

Rumors and wondering aside - time will tell.

 

[Vocenoctum]

Which is a trend they started with Exalted.

What I've been wondering since seeing the names for the new books is how separate the new WoD will be from the old WoD.

I originally heard they weren't re-doing Dark Ages, so it'd be the same basis if so, but maybe they'll redo DA also.

I have to say, the Gehenna Toolbox book was disappointing. There was a nice central metaplot to Vampire, and Gehenna could have been a chance to end the story, tie up loose ends and go out with a bang. Instead, it's got 4 scenarios that are all awkward and just don't seem to sync well with the metaplot IMO.

Mouseferatu's book was fun though

 

[Umbran]

There was a nice central metaplot to Vampire, and Gehenna could have been a chance to end the story, tie up loose ends and go out with a bang.

They've said, repeatedly, that they don't want to tie up the metaplots and loose ends in any sort of single conclusive manner. They intentionally areleaving the aswers up to the GMs, and leaving questions open. That makes sense, because any single manner they'd choose would fail to mesh with a majority of the campaigns out there. A book with a single wrap-up story might be nice for a fan of the fictional universe as seen in the novels and splatbooks, but it'd be pretty bad as a gaming book.

 

[Welverin]

*shrug*. I first saw the pattern in the Dark Ages line. I've never so much as looked at teh front cover of an Exalted book.

That's too bad, you should check it out some time.

The scuttlebutt I hear says the answer to that is "very different". You expect them to keep the names so that they get to get some leverage off of the old product identities.

I just wonder because the names for the new games give the impression that there could be some connection, which is more than I expected.

 

[Vocenoctum]

They've said, repeatedly, that they don't want to tie up the metaplots and loose ends in any sort of single conclusive manner. They intentionally areleaving the aswers up to the GMs, and leaving questions open. That makes sense, because any single manner they'd choose would fail to mesh with a majority of the campaigns out there. A book with a single wrap-up story might be nice for a fan of the fictional universe as seen in the novels and splatbooks, but it'd be pretty bad as a gaming book.

Yeah, I know why they did it. But, the book isn't the End of the Metaplot as they were first discussing it. It's the toolbox. I can understand the toolbox as a game product, but it really doesn't cap the series IMO.
As well, the endings they give don't really sync with Time of Thin Blood or Nights of Prophecy.

So, I know what they were doing, and they were specific about it in their advertising, but I don't think it works with teh stated premise.

Or, to put it another way, I don't like buying books that tell me to do the work, I'm buying the book to give me the info, so it should do it's job.

 

[Jehosephat]

So I guess, for anyone who's never played before 2.0 would be a good starting point?

 

[humble minion]

So I guess, for anyone who's never played before 2.0 would be a good starting point?

You could do a lot worse. The good thing about starting with 2.0 is that there isn't 10 years worth of backstory to learn, and everyone will be on the same footing re knowledge of the setting. And of course, you'll be getting into it the same time as everyone else, so you won't have any problems finding keen players.

Though there's always the possibility of picking up the original WoD books relatively cheap, when the new version replaces them on the shelves. To each his/her own. As long as you're not a rabid completist, you should be able to get enough out of (for example) the Vampire corebook, the Guide to the Camarilla, and the Guide to the Sabbat to keep you going for a very, very long time.

 

[Mouseferatu]

Mouseferatu's book was fun though

Thank you.

 

[Dark Jezter]

The World of Darkness ends when the players run out of black lipstick and eyeshadow.

 

[herald]

The World of Darkness ends when the players run out of black lipstick and eyeshadow.

I've come here to wear black lipstick, and eye shadow and to kick ass! And I'm all out of black lipstick and eye shadow......